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Jesse Swallow
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Monday, July 28, 2008 - 07:42 pm, by:  Jesse Swallow (Denzel) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure where to post this, but i feel ripped off and feel it needs to be said.

Myself and also iv heard others have been ripped off by this guy, sold parts that weren't of good quality, and then wont reply to email or let the items be sent back.

My self personally bought 8 air filters off him, thought to be new, then when I received the items they were tatty, dirty, scratched. They were a joke, and my mechanic told me to send them back where they came from.

He claims he doesnt care and wont do anything about it. I even offered for him to keep $50 off the purchase price for hes time. That still didnt change hes mind, he just wanted to off load he's junk to me and make a quick buck!

letting down hes fathers name, who i have bought parts from the past.

End of the day I spent $450, and have nothing to show for it and a guy who has no morals/values and who doesnt care about the car community.
Miles Baker
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 12:59 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Photos?
Joshua Rao
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 06:23 am, by:  Joshua Rao (Soaren1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not cool at all and thanks for the heads up.
Mick Mielczarek
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 01:18 pm, by:  Mick Mielczarek (Eta04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys, i have sold items on this site before and have never had a problem ( John Khanh Etc wheels etc ) ask him what type of quality i had sent him??
also in regards to jesse,
He knew thew that the items were 2nd hand...
They were just not air filters but they were custom designed Air filter adapters as well?
where if he was go to purchase these products i would like to see what he would pay, WITHOUT copying our designs etc !!!
For $450 it included two sets of k&N air filters which were 2nd hand just need to be re oiled???
Also included the adaptors whuch were custom made???
If people chose to believe what he is stating then so be it, in terms of im not in it for the car enthuisasts thats a total lie.....
Ben Daniel
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 02:33 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jesse, I think you shoulda taken this up with Peter in PM first rather than making it a public issue.
Mike Beck
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 03:05 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmmmmm...
Peter Nitschke
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 03:07 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not really much I can do however. Sales are between members and rely on both the seller making a fair representation and the buyer making sure that what he is buying is what he wants to buy.

Getting photographs is usually pretty important, especially in determining the condition of the goods and if there is a later dispute.

I can find no posts on SC where Mick is offering any air filters for sale, so this really isn't a forum issue at all.

If you really think you have a strong case, then take it to the courts, because making it a public issue could mean it will end up in court anyway.
Jesse Swallow
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:35 pm, by:  Jesse Swallow (Denzel) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2 sets??? well you just lied there AGAIN i dont ever recall 2 sets - just the 8 air filters you sent me with the adapters.

WHY have you REFUSED to take the items back, even when you only have to send $400 back....not the 450 i gave you, plus i need to pay for freight back aswell. So you still make an easy $50.....think about that.

AT NO POINT WAS I TOLD THEY WERE 2ND - like i said, look in our previous emails - you never said anything about that, if i did i would not of bought them!!!!!

It's more the fact you have no use for these items, so you flogging them off for a quick buck!

If i knew they were of this quality i would of gone custom air box setup, which is what im doing now!

im in the process of seeing what my brother can do,

as hes refusing to help at all!
dont deal with this guy!
Brian Timms
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 07:45 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys, CHILL TIME!!!!!

As someone who doesn't give a rat's flat backside for either party (no longer a Soarer owner, no longer want to bother with mods), I am happy to assist in side to side discussions to try and cool the heat of both parties and see if we can sort this out amicably.

Jesse, Can you show use text of what you where promised to get, and photo evidence of what you paid for?

Mick, Can you provide text of what was promised, and what was sent (possibly) so that we can compare them?

Seriously guys, I have gone through similar issues with the sale of items on my Soarer, emailing and having requests for parts by people, and then after sending the parts being told they where wrong, and it was costing me each time in postage, packaging, and access at to my car at the time, so I got the and just parted with my car instead (had enough, and it was costing me to sell stuff to help people).

I would like to assist in cooling the heat in regards to this transaction, and hopefully being able to end the hatred without pain to each other, and other members.

B.
Don Bagnall
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:10 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like a VERY good plan Brian.........if both parties are willing
John Khanh
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:14 pm, by:  John Khanh (Bigjohn) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys, I can vouch in favour of Mick for the transaction I made with him in regards to the wheels. The transaction itself was easy and hassle free. The quality of the wheels I got off Mick were very good.

Have a look at my profile pic which I actually took today. There were no hassles at all with him.
Mick Mielczarek
TryHard
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v8

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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:46 pm, by:  Mick Mielczarek (Eta04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

let the courts settle it : )
Mick Mielczarek
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:47 pm, by:  Mick Mielczarek (Eta04) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and thanks John!
Your car is looking awesome!!! sometimes wish i didnt sell them wheels
Jesse Swallow
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 10:19 pm, by:  Jesse Swallow (Denzel) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

see..someone saying "lets see the courts settle it" is just being very smug an ass, putting it bluntly.

i just want my money back...you can keep your air filters! and $50 profit. Guys, wheels and air filters/adapters are a different matter, wheels can be sold easily on all sorts of cars.

these air filters cant be, hence hes being like this, hes trying to get away with it.

you be the judge guys, i would stay far away from this guy...he has no intention to do anything about this.

Brian..i just want my money back....he can take hes items back.....why should it be any harder than that?? and for mick, why are you being like this???...and mick...where is this so called 2nd set??
Ben Kelly
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Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 10:40 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jesse I agree that if Mick sold you items that were contrary to those agreed your money should be refunded in full. However if you intend to make allegations in a public forum it would be appropriate if you could provide photos of the items and any communication between yourself and mick prior to the sale (as has been suggested). If he made no representations as to the items being new I would say that he is right to ignore your requests for a refund.
Miles Baker
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Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 07:57 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

POST SOME PHOTOS
Brian Timms
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Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 06:48 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys,

Both email me your supporting information for and against the arguements, and I will review the information.

Warning for both of you, I will be very blunt and direct with anything I say, but I wont be taking sides for either people, and I CAN NOT BE BOUGHT!!!

Mods, might be worth closing this thread, it's not going to go anywhere, other than down hill.

Let's move this battle private.

B.
Miles Baker
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Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 08:07 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What are you gonna resolve Brian?

Only place anything could happen is in the court of public opinion. If he posts up photos and they suck, the group may be able to apply some pressure to Mick or at least learn not to buy from him.

If there is nothing wrong with the photos, Mick's reputation is restored.
Jesse Swallow
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Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 09:04 pm, by:  Jesse Swallow (Denzel) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i can get some photos...but still missing the point..these were 2nd hand in the first place,,, which i wasnt told.
Dave Billings
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Friday, August 01, 2008 - 12:07 am, by:  Dave Billings (Waveman1717) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Brian Timms wrote on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 06:48 pm:

I CAN NOT BE BOUGHT


I can.......







(hint)
Brian Timms
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Friday, August 01, 2008 - 01:48 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jesse, get screen shots of the original correspondance, and photos of the goods supplied.

B.
Jeff Bedsor
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Friday, August 01, 2008 - 02:24 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jesse Swallow wrote on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 09:04 pm:

can get some photos...but still missing the point..these were 2nd hand in the first place,,, which i wasnt told.



I can't believe that anyone would be selling 8 "NEW" K&N pod filters and adapters for as little as $450 in the first place. If they are the ones I am thinking of, they would be worth $80 + each, that $640. Where is the original add for these? Why hasn't Jesse posted up picks? I think there is more to this than Jesse says.
Ben Daniel
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Friday, August 01, 2008 - 04:19 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Were these air filters for your 8x trumpet set up ?
Callum Finch
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Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:42 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave if i slip you a fiddy will you get cosy with me?
;)
Dave Billings
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Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 04:02 am, by:  Dave Billings (Waveman1717) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

C'mon Callum! You know I'm worth much more than that.... maybe a C-note???.....

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