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Rehan Bandara
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Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 08:34 pm, by:  Rehan Bandara (Parsec) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What do you need to go through before the RTA lets you write an engineer's certificate for aftermarket mods?
Kyle Wathen
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Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 08:57 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They won't just give it to any person with an engineering degree, so probably best to contact the RTA yourself.
Miles Baker
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Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 09:41 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It takes quite a while chief, like 10 years. So nix those plans of filling out some paperwork then being able to scratch out an engineer's certificate for an obviously defective car (which would lose you your authority anyway).
Rehan Bandara
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Thursday, January 08, 2009 - 11:32 pm, by:  Rehan Bandara (Parsec) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha, it'd be silly to go through the process of being able to write engineer's certificates just to lift defects. I just figured it'd be better value than having to get everything engineered in the long run... but if it takes 10 years.

Do you know what's required? Do you have to take a test or attain a certain level of experience?
Ben Daniel
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 12:23 am, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Getting a mechanics trade certificate would be the first step, then you would need your own licensed workshop that meet all safety standards... the rest... I cant answer :-)
Miles Baker
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 07:51 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have to work your way up through the ranks of mech engs doing auto work, then have a whole load of references saying you are good for it before you get to be a signatory.

You have to actually know EVERYTHING about how cars are designed and put together before they let you do this.
Rehan Bandara
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 09:33 am, by:  Rehan Bandara (Parsec) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fair enough then. I didn't think it'd be easy, I just wanted to know how difficult.

I am doing a PhD in mech eng, but I doubt that'd help the process...

Does anyone know where you can obtain a copy of the automotive ADRs?
Miles Baker
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 06:49 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are correct, it doesn't help.

ADRs are purchased.

Give up these silly dreams of issuing certificates for cars that shouldn't be on the road. You'd be throwing away a very hard earned VASS signatory qualification. As soon as the cops saw something they didn't like and you held up a certificate, signed by you, they'd have your papers pulled. As a fellow engineer you should be aware that you are supposed to act in a professional manner at all times with respect for the spirit, not just the word, of the rules put in place. A BE is a professional degree.
Rod Iseppi
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 07:35 pm, by:  Rod Iseppi (Rod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well said miles.....
Rehan Bandara
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Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:42 am, by:  Rehan Bandara (Parsec) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha... easy there. No one said anything about certifying unroadworthy cars. That would be stupid like you say. I just figure being able to certify (roadworthy) cars myself would be cheaper for me and my friends, rather than having to pay thousands to take it to a consigned signatory.

Going through the process so that I could get unroadworthy cars certified would be a monumental waste of time.
Miles Baker
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Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:42 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Really? In another thread you wanted to pull the panels off an MR2 and give it an engineer's certificate. There are clear laws on what shape your car needs to be to not inflict damage on pedestrians if you hit them. In addition, engineers do not write roadworthy certificates.

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