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Rehan Bandara
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 09:43 am, by:  Rehan Bandara (Parsec) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure a lot of people here have dreamt about owning an Ariel atom (and probably putting that silly supercharger in the bin and turboing it).

Unfortunately, they don't import them to Australia (not that I could come anywhere close to being able to afford one). That doesn't really stop me from wanting a tubular framed open wheeler of some sort.

This has got me thinking... what if I could take a road car, peel all the panels off it and reinforce it with a tubular truss/cage. Check out this mx5 bullet without panels. Obviously it's missing a lot of stuff, but it's a tantalising sight.

http://www.mx5club.com.au/images/bullet/Bullet_Peeled.jpg

Getting it registered would be a bit of a pipe dream, but it's got me thinking and wondering about ADRs and what does and doesn't comply with our roadworthiness regulations.

The obvious use is a track day car, but I do really like the idea of one day getting it registered.

The idea is very much still in pipe dream stage, but I'm thinking a cheap MR2 with loads of panel damage (who hasn't seen one of those!?) would be a great start.

As for why? I'm trying to justify that to myself... so I came up with a list of reasons:

Lighter: higher power to weight ratio.
Lower: no wheel arches, semi open wheeler type arrangement.
Shorter: Possibly able to shorten it by removing all sorts of redundant spaces like the front spare tyre well and the rear "boot"
More visceral: of dubious objectivity, but hey, who doesn't like the wind in their face and the raw sound of an uncovered engine behind your head.

Thoughts?
Ben Lipman
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 12:35 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd be more inclined to just grab some pipe and build something from scratch.

A guy in my car club has done something similar with a moke. Drive line, seat, steerer, pedals, wheels and a whole bunch of tubes. He uses it for hillclimbs motorkhana etc.
Christian Molenda
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 02:02 pm, by:  Christian Molenda (Christof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those mx5's were produced by bullet and they were road registerable in aus with the option of supercharged or naturally aspirated quad cam 8.
http://www.bulletcars.com/cars/preowned/

My mate actually worked there and built the chassis of these. They are very well constructed card
Leon Wright
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 02:11 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mate is building a buggy out of an old suzuki. Same thing, pedals, suspension, engine. Bloody thing is going to be four wheel steer!

It's going to be a fairly weighty buggy, but you could roll this thing off a cliff without denting the cage!
Miles Baker
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Friday, January 09, 2009 - 06:49 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1. No chance of ever getting a car without panels registered EVER EVER EVER give up and stop thinking about it. It's unsafe.

2. Panels aren't really that heavy. If you must, replace with fiberglass for cheap.
Rehan Bandara
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Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:50 am, by:  Rehan Bandara (Parsec) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Really? The ariel atom gets registered in many countries (although I think it's yet to be deemed roadworthy in Aust and Nz, but they're working on it. I haven't looked into why it isn't being imported here yet.)

It's not just weight. There's something really raw and visceral about a car without panels. It's like a fast go kart or other open wheeler. The lack of wheel arches means it can be absurdly low as well.

I am looking into kit cars as well which seem like a more sensible route than stripping an MR2, but I've always had a soft spot for the things.
Mike Dobkin
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Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 09:48 pm, by:  Mike Dobkin (Razman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Rehan Bandara wrote on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 11:50 am:

I am looking into kit cars as well which seem like a more sensible route than stripping an MR2




Exactly my thoughts - ripping the panels off a production car is just senseless IMO. You can then design it to your idea of how a car should look and perform.

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