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Adam Peterson
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Friday, May 01, 2009 - 01:20 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

China rolls out a Rolls-Royce rip-off:

WTF:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/executive-style/motors/china-rolls-out-a-rollsroyce-ripoff/2009/04/27/1240684387987.html



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Dave Rose
DieHard
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Friday, May 01, 2009 - 09:05 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Japans Jaguar mk2 order yours today

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Miles Baker
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Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 10:39 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Communist creativity at its finest.

First the copied the photocopier. Now they use it.
Mike Beck
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Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 11:26 am, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They have no idea in general, its why Europeans and white people are always first with the best ideas.

Well were in the 1000-1950 period anyway.

Things are changing at the moment - and for the worse.
Lawrence Ostle
DieHard
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Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 04:49 pm, by:  Lawrence Ostle (Lawrence) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cherry Amulet crash test - ouch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Swzbt76wBM

Compare to Corolla:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdCn8ci-mWM&feature=related
Mike Beck
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Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 07:08 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ahhh Ive seen those ages ago.

Scary.

They should NEVER make cars and NEVER think they will be able to.

Communists...
Mark Donovan
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Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 08:10 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mike - you may not realise, but you're embarrassing yourself.
Myles Jantzen
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SA
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Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 10:49 pm, by:  Myles Jantzen (Maxx999) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great $200K for a car that has 3 seats and will probably crush you to death at 60Kmh.

Just stick to making Ipods
Ali Saeed
TryHard
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Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 01:54 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol what speed is that corolla test at? 70mph?
Adam Peterson
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Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 03:52 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like the corolla test. It even deploys the window wipers - perhaps to wipe away a pedestrian limb or two..
Callum Finch
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 09:28 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Miles Baker wrote on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 10:39 am:

Communist creativity at its finest.



Mike Beck wrote on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 07:08 pm:

Communists...



Spot the racist in this thread.
Adam Peterson
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 01:04 pm, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Callum, Most of the Russian sub continent now known as Bulgaria, Ukraine to name a few, all have strong communist ties as well as China. I know where you're coming from but i wouldn't call racist on it.
David Janiec
TryHard
WA
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 01:19 pm, by:  David Janiec (Davidj) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Communism isn't a race anyway, its a way a society is run, lots of different races do it, just like dictatorships...but we're straying now :-)
David Tra
DieHard
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 02:09 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Mike Beck wrote on Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 11:26 am:

Europeans and white people are always first with the best ideas




are you serious?
David Vaughan
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 04:58 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dave Rose wrote on , , :

Japans Jaguar ...



Mike Beck wrote on , , :

Communists...


Gosh Mike, always ready to enlighten us.
Miles Baker
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 06:22 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hahahaha. Communism is not a race dude. Communism is a system of economic and political structure that says the entire community should be equal... that is they all equally own precisely squat, all property and means of production are owned by the state and noone really gives a crap about producing new, innovative, *profitable* goods.
Mike Beck
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 06:54 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Say 'communist' = being racist??

It's a political structure as Miles says.

Anyway Callum, whats wrong with being racist? Life would be too boring without racists jokes and comments, it adds a bit of spice to life, it's also called being truthful, not all races are equal, if you think they are then HA.

Go shove your head in the sand if you cant handle it.

David Vaughan
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 07:44 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

It's also called being truthful, not all races are equal


Sure. Now, please identify "racial" differences for me, relevant to intelligence and innovation, and scientifically, not in merely racist terms.


Your original proposition, that

quote:

They have no idea in general, its why Europeans and white people are always first with the best ideas.

Well were in the 1000-1950 period anyway.


is risible at best. You confuse cultural transitions with racial characteristics. You implicitly recognise this yourself or you would not have attempted to bound your comment with dates, loose as they may be.
Joe Russell
TryHard
Marlborough
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 08:14 pm, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the communist race should be sent to hell with God as my witness.



....Wait, they're doing this to themselves..?
I have to say I'm impressed!
David Tra
DieHard
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 08:26 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope a chinese dr spits in your organs...
Mike Beck
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 09:01 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hit some nerves!


Not that I care

Please do continuing sparking conversation to make a pointless forum argument.

Who ever wins, will deserve this ->
David Vaughan
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Tuesday, May 05, 2009 - 09:07 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Rarely has an argument been conceded so quickly, and with so feeble an attempt to downplay the loss.

Joe Russell
TryHard
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 04:36 am, by:  Joe Russell (Joe_r) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What else offensive can I say... I feel the need to stir some more
Miles Baker
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 07:59 am, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Come on that comment about Europeans and white people being first with the good ideas is crap.

Us Americans are the first with the good ideas. All the Eurotrash ever came up with was cars that rust out quickly, and how to make love with your face.
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 08:37 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't worry about it Mike. I'll stop stirring too :-)
Adam Peterson
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 11:34 am, by:  Adam Peterson (President) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Australians invented the Hills hoist so clearly its us Australians who are first with the good ideas
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 01:41 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I vaguely recall about twenty or so years ago some American consulting group studied Australia and reported on productivity, amongst other things. The problem he said, was the slack attitude of Australians. This, he added, was epitomised by what he saw on a car in Sydney, a bumper sticker which read, "I'd rather be sailing."

Silly bloody foreigners.
David Grima
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 05:36 pm, by:  David Grima (Maltezr) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL the chinese copy just about every popular car and suv. this link has all the major manufacturers

http://www.chinacarforums.com/chinese_car_manufacturers.html

BYD F8 vs. Benz CLK
http://www.chinacarforums.com/china_car_reports/china_copy_car_sports_cars.html

or this from Shuanghuan Auto
NOBLE = DAEWOO MATIZ copy
CEO = TOYOTA PRADO/BMW X5 copy
S-RV = HONDA's C-RV copy
http://www.hbshauto.com/en/cars/cars.htm

few more on this video, more on youtube though
http://technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DrtTmnchkuR8

they even make dodgy copies of company logos LOL.
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 07:06 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rewind 40-50 years, write "Japan" rather than "China", then think about the next 40-50 years. :-)

I seem to recall that Britain was once the most advanced country in the world industrially, then 40-50 years after Britain's peak it was America. That was well over 100 years ago. I can go way further back to the point where Europe was copying China and Arabia, or beyond that if you feel like it.

It helps to watch the longer term before forming opinions about "races" or "progress". History happens.
Ali Saeed
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 07:42 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL americans could NEVER make cars as good as the euros or japs.
David Vaughan
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 09:23 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

suckerrr

Mr Baker, what is your opinion on this please? [adjusts glasses, steps back]
Rod Iseppi
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 09:24 pm, by:  Rod Iseppi (Rod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that may be true but the japs and the euros just cant make a muscle car or a pickup truck..... never have never will.....
David Tra
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 09:40 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why would the japs develop a performance car that chews through fuel? when they can have a car with equal or can offer better performance but use less fuel consumption?
Rod Iseppi
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 10:24 pm, by:  Rod Iseppi (Rod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and? i would rather drive down the road in a bigblock roadrunner or cuda over a soarer or skyline any day....
Steve Latimer
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Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 11:55 pm, by:  Steve Latimer (Latsus) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Vaughan wrote on Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 07:06 pm:

History happens.




History is created,.... happens

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