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Anika Le
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Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 10:11 pm, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As stated in my topic, I need some advice (preferably those from SA).

I have just received in the post a traffic expiation notice which I believe is wrong. I was caught on Spains Road in Salisbury downs doing 58kph in a 50kph. Result is a whooping $220 fine!

My argument is, I always use cruise control and that being near the place of my accident, I am overly cautious. Plus I have not had a speeding fine except for 1 which I admit was entirely my fault. Other than that, I have a clean record.

Has anyone disputed and won? what process did you have to go through?
Ben Socratous
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Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 11:03 pm, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not a chance!

1. cruise control is not meant for use in suburbia and 2. that would give them an opportunity to defect your car for a faulty speed.

I've had mates get done and even had the date of the offence written as 2010, still there is no way out of it. Even if you did manage to get out of it, you'd still be liable for the court costs.

My advice, wear the $220 (it really isn't that much considering our new fee structure here!) and lay off the cruise control, as it will not apply the brakes if the car picks up speed, only cut the throttle.
David Vaughan
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 07:38 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know of no laws on when and where you may use speed control. Where did you find that, Ben?

You could pay to get the photo, Anika, but if it shows your car at a time you can not prove you were elsewhere, I very much doubt you can do much.

Were you on a hill? Do you what is your speedo error? Neither of these would help with the offence but they might help to inform you.

Incidentally, "expiation"? Is that really what is on the notice?
Peter Burrett
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:37 am, by:  Peter Burrett (Burrett) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anika, if you want to contest it, go to Aussie Speeding Fines and join up. They assert that a) any device used to establish speed must be lab certified, and b) that no such devices in Australia are capable of being certified. If you join up ($70, I think) they give you a kit which you use to get the case thrown out..
Bruce Passfield
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:42 am, by:  Bruce Passfield (Bruce) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anika, even if you did not speed it would cost you much more to fight the offence. It's designed that way. Big brother needs your money and to show it is all powerful and that you are a mere mortal. Fairness and being just does not count, Unless you have mates in the right place or a large pocket full of cash!!
Anika Le
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:45 am, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Vaughan wrote on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 07:38 am:

Were you on a hill? Do you what is your speedo error? Neither of these would help with the offence but they might help to inform you.




No it was a straight flat road. Unfortunately no, I don't know what my speedo error is but usually I don't speed around that area because I know that there's always parked cars with cameras.


David Vaughan wrote on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 07:38 am:

Incidentally, "expiation"? Is that really what is on the notice?




Yeah, that's what they put on my letter.

So far it's not looking good I just think it's ridiculous that going 8kph over is a $220 fine! I don't mind paying $100 or so but $220?! blah...
Jol Alexander
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:51 am, by:  Jol Alexander (Courage) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mate if you did the crime don't challenge it.

for them to say 58 there is usually a %5 mark down in speed to cater for error so that think you were doing 65ish.

Only challenge you can put forth is other vehicles (specifically trucks) causing a "wake" which induced a false reading.

See if you can get the picture they took - if there is a truck anywhere in the picture you can usually get off.
Bruce Passfield
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:55 am, by:  Bruce Passfield (Bruce) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anika, Just looked at your profile and noticed your a Legal Secretary. You should know we have "the best Judicial system money can buy"
Jol Alexander
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 09:04 am, by:  Jol Alexander (Courage) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce she would need a specialist in SA Traffic law, as well as someone who can get access regarding the camera that was in use.

Side: Didn;t know people bothered with profile occuptaions.. i'd beeter update mine
Anika Le
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 09:09 am, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jol Alexander wrote on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:51 am:

Mate if you did the crime don't challenge it.




I wouldn't be challenging it if I knew I was guilty!!! It just doesn't seem right.


I am going to get the picture regardless just to pinpoint where it was etc
Anika Le
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 09:14 am, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Working in the legal system, I should know how sucky it is lol

I will try to get some advice with my legal contacts and see how that goes..
Bruce Passfield
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 09:46 am, by:  Bruce Passfield (Bruce) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anika, In regard to your profile picture, If I was 20yrs younger... No make that 30yrs!! I definitely would be giving you a call. I was going to download a picture of myself on my profile but this site has a filter that cuts out pictures of old guy's wearing white speedo's with gold chains and a fake tan.
Jol Alexander
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 10:00 am, by:  Jol Alexander (Courage) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce .. aww that sucks.. we totally need more Silver backs on here .. (to make me stop feeling to old)

And yes, Anika's photo is quite striking isn't it.. I'm almost tempted to pay her fine for her :-)
Bruce Passfield
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 10:34 am, by:  Bruce Passfield (Bruce) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jol, Pay her fine for her. Jeez mate if she took it to court I would have sex with the judge to get her off!! (sorry for the pun), But I see she comes from S.A and I think it is compulsory to do that anyway (For same sex people at least!!). And if you are a silverback being born in 77 then I must be a sloth. I think I had my last consensual sexual encounter back in 77. Well I swear that goat said he was over 16 and that's what I'm sticking with!! And I don't care what the police and that farmer say!!
Jol Alexander
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 11:40 am, by:  Jol Alexander (Courage) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce .. don't hold back mate, say what you really think :-) . hahaha

I think if I paid her fine my misses would want a really good explanation and I can't think that quick on my feet.


Just noticed your Ex Plastic Fantastic .. that explains the goat sex :-)
Bruce Passfield
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 04:51 pm, by:  Bruce Passfield (Bruce) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jest you may Jol but Gary was a close companion of mine on those lonely 10 to 6 shifts, We shared some touching moments during those torrid times. Or was that torrid moments during touched times. I get those two mixed up!! Even today I get slightly aroused at seeing chin hair (even on my wife!). Anyway enough of the good times. I've hijacked Anika's thread long enough.
As soon as I get rid of this stupid leg bracelet and off those stalking charges I will see about collecting money for Anika's speeding fund. Anika could you send me your address so I could deliver the money personally? P.S I don't suppose you have chin hair Anika???
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 05:03 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adam Barry
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 07:42 pm, by:  Adam Barry (Acdchook) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Damn, you have to pay to get a copy of the photo in SA??? That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard! Talk about a blatant money grab!

Here in WA fines come with the photo on them.
Anika Le
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 10:53 pm, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lol Bruce, I'm sorry to say but I'm not your type, I don't have any chin hair
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 11:52 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ive got some chin hair..
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Friday, September 04, 2009 - 11:12 am, by:  Jol Alexander (Courage) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bruce, in case you didn't know, I'm VicPol and lov'n your work.


Anika - I recon you should print off some more photos and then sell them to members at $15 a pop ..

Even better organise a cruise to honor our buddist godess with a $15 donation to go to the "lets get the hotty of the hook" fund
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Friday, September 04, 2009 - 01:47 pm, by:  Brenton Trafford (Traff) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jol Alexander wrote on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 11:12 am:

"lets get the hotty of the hook"




LOL I'm in. I remember the pic Anika posted of a couple of her friends as well. I wonder if they've any speeding fines?
Jol Alexander
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Friday, September 04, 2009 - 08:39 pm, by:  Jol Alexander (Courage) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anika - BTW I (and i presume all) are not trying to be rude or anything and hope you do not take offence to what is being said. Cars are a bit of a boys club... hard to beat that mentallity out of us at times
Anika Le
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Sunday, September 06, 2009 - 09:38 pm, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No wonder why you guys chase away the girls on here!

hahaha nah no offense taken, it's all in good humour. If one of you crosses the line, I will make sure that you know it!!
Anika Le
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Jol Alexander wrote on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 11:12 am:

"lets get the hotty of the hook" fund


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