Jol Alexander wrote on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 08:52 pm:So to you I say.. you wanna be a witness ..great ..go for it. But don't be doing it for any woman, beer or car, you do it for yourself
yes, the only way I could ever justify doing it would be because of her, not for myself. I'm reading more and more into it and just cant imagine believing in what they say. It's so upsetting that such a gorgeous person who I care so much about has been brought up like this.
Ben Daniel wrote on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 09:59 pm:Ryan, how important are your own family and their beliefs ??? The reason I ask is because what if you do convert to Jehova's witness and say it's your birthday or christmas. Jehova's witness's dont believe in birthday's or christmas but your family still do and will want to celebrate it and share it with you but will be crushed when you refuse because of your religion. In 1 part you've won with this clause with your girlfriend and her family but you've lost with your own family who brought you into this world and raised you. Personally I think that would be the biggest insult to them especially if it's just over a girl.
My parents arent religious either, I am sure they would be somewhat disappointed with my choice after hearing their thoughts on it.
Ben Daniel wrote on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 09:59 pm:My whole Family are Christian and go to church every sunday (except me, I've deemed myself agnostic) but my dad was a Jehova's witness. Before he came to our family he didn't know what a birthday or christmas was but was happy to escape his normal family's ways. I wasn't there to see it but apparently at first family christmas with my mum's family and him, he got his first ever present and he broke down and cried as he realised what he'd missed out on for the first 30 years of his life... it wasn't so much getting the materialistic present but the fact he was able to share such an event with a loving family. As time passed his mum accepted his choice to not be a Jehova's witness and that he'd married a non believer and she eventually came around to visiting us at our home's and family gathering's and accepeting who we are.
She told me about that. She turned 21 while we were together and I got her a gold necklace with a gold heart with 3 diamonds in it, she loved it. Easter as well, I set up her very first easter egg hunt at her place, then she did one for me. I'm still finding lthe little toy chickens she hid around the house.
So disappointing that there are people who miss out on celebrations because theyre told otherwise. To not celebrate the day someone was born goes right over my head.
Doran Guthrie wrote on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 10:37 pm:rejoice in what you had.
It's wonderful thinking about. At the moment though its probably best not for me to do so when the relationship didnt end on a sour not so to speak. No one did anything wrong, which really pisses me off. However I cant help thinking maybe if i HAD of done more she wouldnt have wanted to go back to that lifestyle.
Aaron Mead wrote on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 01:28 am:Put simply, the JW's God, like almost all religious Gods would never approve such treatment as her family has shown you.
So disappointing.
Jeff Bedsor wrote on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 03:56 pm: I would move on, I know it seems like the end of the world ATM, but that will pass.
I know it will, I've been there before. Part of me wants to be able to switch the feeling off, but then I realise thats what makes me human, and it would be a terrible thing not to feel anything.
Its horrifying to find out that if she ever needed a blood transfusion she would refuse it. The thought of her being in an accident is bad enough but to think she would let herself die over what she believes is terrible.
I dont believe any of what of read, albeit little. However when she spoke about the end of the world and that I wouldnt be there with her gave me the worst mental image ever. I've seen/heard some sick •••• working in the prison but what she said was truly heart breaking.
I went to the gym today for about 90 minutes, have a friend coming over later and am working tomorrow. Hopefully it will help me get along. Will have to get stuck into the garden soon as well with the nicer weather.
Apart from what I've said, I still respect peoples choices in life. I've always said us long as it doesnt interfere with my life, people can do as they wish. And because it was simply the way she was brought up I hold no grudges against her. If she reconsiders and changes her mind I would still love for her to fill that part of my life.
Thank you again for the responses SC, for the advice and support.
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