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Ryan Posselt
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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 11:46 am, by: Ryan Posselt (Yakusaryan)

http://www.smh.com.au/drive/motor-news/is-speed-really-a-killer-20091030-ho9e.html

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Andrew Duaso
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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 11:52 am, by: Andrew Duaso (Andrewd)

nah man then i'd have to get off my arse and disable the cruise ctrl speed limit lol

im happy with the 108 it maxes out now, works fine both in 100 and 110km/h speed zones

Jol Alexander
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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:02 pm, by: Jol Alexander (Courage)

I was talking with my dad the other day (where were going down East Link in the Soarer) about whether these pay roads should be opened up to a higher speed. For myself and many drivers that would be awesome, but we quickly concluded that there are way too many crap drivers in Melbourne to allow it. Imagine getting up a nice pace of 150 and so dil pickle pulls infront of you or worse, clips you.

As for rural places having higher speed limits... meh. I'd much rather nod of an crash into a tree at 80 then 180

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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:04 pm, by: Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor)

I find it much easier to travel at 120kph, at 100 you are in danger of falling asleep from the sheer boredom of it. We have turned into a nation of speedo watchers, the government/cops/media are making out you are a criminal if you go over the speed limit. It would be far safer and I'm sure save many lives if we spent more time watching the roads instead of the speedo.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:13 pm, by: Ken Yo (Khangz)

Wise words Jeff

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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:20 pm, by: Andrew Duaso (Andrewd)

jeff thats where your wrong, the soarer comes equipped with many thinks to take your mind off sleep whilst driving, like TV for example.... some have even fitted dvd

i have an early soarer i dont have cruise control rather i have auto drive, so i take it that my car will drive for me while i watch tv

Jol Alexander
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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 12:34 pm, by: Jol Alexander (Courage)

^ Love it.

Jeff, what is it exactly you are proposing? That the current 100kph be moved to 120kph? Certain roads?

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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 01:13 pm, by: Damian Ware (Frozenpod)

Jeff is dead right.

Driving modern day cars at 100km/hr is just plain stupid the cars just about drive themselves to the point that the driver doesn't have to make small corrections and pay attention to the road and traffic around them.

Driving at 130km/hr or even 120km/hr the car is effected by small bumps more and increased amount of corrections are required. You don't fall asleep/loose concentration and you are then a safer driver as you are paying much more attention to the road and other drivers around you.

This was proven in the US where my cousin lives, they increased the speed limit from 60 to 80mphr and the road toll for the main hwy drop by nearly 50%.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 01:38 pm, by: Brett Cutts (Boof390)

I just can't believe the amount of tossers that when I test drive their late model cars before working on them have their speed alerts set at 40 to 45 kmh because driving around town at the speed limit of 50 must be a bit too terrifying for them

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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 02:00 pm, by: Jeff Smith (Mozzie)

Yeah I'm for and against this..
I agree with Jeff on this.. On long country trips you get board very quickly.. And having the limit lifted by 10-20k's would make you more alert and more focused on the drive at hand..
Around built up area's well that's a different subject.. We have the public to think about also.. So keeping the limits down in said built up area's should most definetly remain.. But in the like's of freeway's,Lift the limit..
If in some place's like major city's,regulate speed limits according to traffic as regardles of speed limit the public will and always be frustrated on the way to/from work and not really focus on safe driving.. It's a tough one to get right but definetly something to think about and maybe come up with a good resolve out of it..

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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 04:04 pm, by: Ali Saeed (Ali)

i agree. a couple of weeks back i was coming home from a mates place after being awake for 40+ hours, and the only way i could stay awake was loud music of going over the speed limit..in the end i gave up and i had a nap on the side of the road

James Johnson
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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 07:57 pm, by: James Johnson (Jimbo)

I used to work on dairy farms and I do agree that at a higher speed you are more alert when doing long trips as I used to travel for what would take normally 3 hours to get to where I was going.

How ever if you were traveling at a higher speed just imagine the carnage of some one crossing the line and entering the wrong lane, we all know what 100kph is like imagine a extra 20/30kmh, or if a tyre blew out for example and put you in a spin?

If the roads were more safer then yes by all means increase the speed limit but when you still have so many other factors that cannot be controlled that can cause a crash, no way in hell.

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Friday, October 30, 2009 - 10:46 pm, by: Ben Daniel (Lexustt)

Jeff Smith wrote on Friday, October 30, 2009 - 02:00 pm:
Yeah I'm for and against this..
I agree with Jeff on this.. On long country trips you get board very quickly.. And having the limit lifted by 10-20k's would make you more alert and more focused on the drive at hand..
Around built up area's well that's a different subject.. We have the public to think about also.. So keeping the limits down in said built up area's should most definetly remain.. But in the like's of freeway's,Lift the limit..
If in some place's like major city's,regulate speed limits according to traffic as regardles of speed limit the public will and always be frustrated on the way to/from work and not really focus on safe driving.. It's a tough one to get right but definetly something to think about and maybe come up with a good resolve out of it..

I wholeheartdly agree with you. But in term's of the freeway they can't really have the whole thing 130 as there's people constantly getting on and off. They should have it similar to the Autobahn in the sense that the Inside lane's are the go zone's and then still have the outside lane's the same as it would be too dangerous trying to get on and off the freeway at those kinds of speeds.

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 01:02 am, by: James Harris (Haro)

this has been discussed a few times.

I think its time that speeds were raised personally.

The max speed of 100km/hr (in most places) has been around for bloody 30 YEARS ! Cars have come a LONG LONG way since then and so have many of the roads.... we need to get up with the times.

OH and up with the DRIVER EDUCATION to reduce the amount of spastics driving on the road.

OH and im a fan of the P PLATE idea... lets me know what to look out for

could i be soo cheeky as to suggest an "A" plate

*jk*

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 01:05 am, by: Ali Saeed (Ali)

everyone knows speeding cameras kill more than speeding.

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Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 10:08 am, by: Jol Alexander (Courage)

I've been thinking about this.. on the surface raising speeds looks to be dangerous but I now think that in selected tripped raising the speed could be well worth it.

Mebourne: Ring, Monsash, Eastlnk, Hume, Melb-Geelong.

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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 03:53 am, by: Gareth Richards (Garethr)

I see that they are using the same sleight of hand that the UK government used to justify speed (sorry, safety) cameras:
That depends who you believe. RTA figures suggest just the opposite, with the number of fatalities involving speed high and on the rise. "To date in 2009, 44 per cent of fatalities involved speed," a spokesman says. "In 2008, 40 per cent of fatalities involved excessive speed or speed inappropriate for the conditions. The evidence from many studies shows that reducing speed limits saves lives and reduces severe injuries."

In the UK, they said that one-third of accidents involved speeding... then people looked at the research and pointed out that "exceeding the speed limit" was a contributory factor in around 5% of incidents, so the propaganda was changed to "excessive speed", which includes inappropriate speed for the conditions.

In other words, the major cause is crap driving, not "speeding". "Speeding" makes a better soundbite, though.

Oh, and virtually 100% of road traffic fatalities involve speed, unless there are an awful lot of drivers and passengers dying of natural causes rather than of coming to a sudden halt.

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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 06:24 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

Always makes me laugh every year when the commish trots out the "speed cameras are for saving lives not revenue gathering" line - but of course you only ever see them on main roads, long straight dual carriage ways (which they now seem to build with deliberate camera and patrol car hiding spaces), passing lanes, and at the end of long downhill runs.

Never, ever anywhere near the white crosses gathered at the sides of the roads where the real accidents happen. Revenue tool, pure and simple.

The other one he trots out every year is "traffic enforcement officers do not have ticket quotas!" - well I know a few cops, and I don't know which policing agencey he's talking about, but the guys I know most certainly do have ticket quotas! I think they often believe if they say something enough times it will somehow make it true.

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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 02:51 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

James Harris wrote on Saturday, October 31, 2009 - 01:02 am:
The max speed of 100km/hr (in most places) has been around for bloody 30 YEARS ! Cars have come a LONG LONG way since then and so have many of the roads.... we need to get up with the times.

Cars from manufacturers may have improved, but that doesnt mean the old ones have been removed from the road. Nor does it mean that the road conditions have improved.