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Miles Baker
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That's a rose coloured view of "who cares, I'll just eat some more cake in the 20 minutes a day it would take me to keep in shape". And consciously or not, her husband is less attracted to the dumpy cow. Of course he's probably let himself go and she is equally unattracted to him.
Yes there is more to life than physical appearance, but a big part of keeping a relationship alive is making sure you are both still attracted to each other. That's your spouse, not a comfy old pair of trackies. Put in some effort. There is no excuse for complacency. |
Mike Bradberry
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Miles said: There is no excuse for complacency.
Whoo Hoo. I like that. |
Aiden Cheese
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Guys its nothing to do with physical appearance, nor is it to do with being chubby or not. being 5-10kg's over the acceptable BMI isn't what i was saying here when i said accepting fat people. I'm talking about the people who have to waddle, the people who weigh twice my weight, the people who actually are obese.
Yeah my comment was tongue in cheek and over harsh. I don't exactly go around and tell people they're fat, but you do know who i tell? My mates. I tell them they are fat lazy ••••• and they should deal with it. And you know what, in the last 3 years, those "fat kid" mates of mine in total have lost over 50kg's amongst the three of them. They are all still fattish (maybe 10kgs over) but you know their standard of life is 10x better than it was.
I suggest you too, maybe not abuse your mates, but let them know its not good. I abuse mine because thats how we treat each other  we all are going to be mates no matter how we look, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't let them know they're doing it wrong.
We used to sit around and play video games all day, now we go to places like the beach, like the gym, play squash twice a week, play cricket in the nets, kick a soccer ball around. And you know, when we play videogames too long we really start feeling like exercising again because it feels better than sitting on our ass.
I'll tell you right now, that even if there's more important things to life than being good looking, your health is still ••••••• important. |
Miles Baker
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Same here. A mate of mine was overweight so I suggested he go to the gym and he would enjoy the change in his life. He really got into it and a few years down the track he's a hell of a lot better off for it. Looks better, feels better, more confident, the lot. There is no valid reason in this world not to get yourself fit and happy. It is a positive feedback loop. Being fat is the opposite.
There are more important things in this world than looking good but it is fcking important. We are a species that favours beauty and always will be. Deal with it. |
Paul Knox
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Beauty changes or the perception of beauty changes.
Modern standards have gone crazy.
Nose jobs, cheek implants , breast implants, vaginal modelling, anal bleaching, hair extensions , brazilian's , crack, back & Sack's.
It's all smoke and mirrors these days.
Good luck finding a good women amongst all that.
And what happens when you turn 40 Miles and can't be bothered getting your Crack ,Back & Sack and waxing your chest, and your girl friend can't stand body hair , because she is so superficial.
Good luck to you boys & Girls |
Miles Baker
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I will never stop taking care of my body Paul. I would never have the disrespect for my partner to say "OK now I'm just going to let myself go and you're stuck with my fat hairy arse". I'm not looking for a superficial person and I don't think I'm being superficial, I'm just being honest and taking some responsibility. Whether your partner admits it or not, if you let yourself go, you are probably not going to be as attractive to them. That's just taking a dump on their sex life for them. Congrats. That's super considerate. This "if she loves me she won't care what I look like" is bullsh1t. People are only human. We're wired to be attracted to attractive people. Noone wants to spend their whole life with a big fat pig. If you marry someone attractive and a few years down the road you find yourself not attracted to them because they have stacked on the weight because they just can't be bothered... is that your fault?
All I'm trying to promote here is that people keep themselves in shape and have some self respect for the way they look and respect for their partner. This crap that it's OK to be lazy and fat is wrong wrong wrong. |
David Vaughan
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The last two posts were like duellists shooting North and South but standing a mile apart on the East-West axis. One can agree with both, give or take minor statements outside the main points. |
Paul Knox
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As much as it pains me to say , i do agree with you in some instances
I was just trying to offer a different perspective.
I'm not fat and my wife is F&*#king Hot !!!
I am tempted to post a photo to prove my honesty , but will refrain for now.
But i do find her as, if not more attractive now than when i first her 20 years ago.
We are blessed with good Genes and honestly don't suffer from what I deem as being superficial.
If i lost a leg/arm was scarred, put on 20 kg's I know she would still be by my side.
We are best friends and although we are what you would consider Good looking, our looks are not why we were attracted to each other.
So i do have to consider some of what you say as untrue or just your own personal view because your priority for a partner is Visual appearance.
You have never mentioned , intellect , sense of humour, conversationalist , spontaneous , lifestyle , interests etc.
Not everyone chooses a mate by physical attributes. Some people are together for many other reasons other than sexual attraction.
Humans operate on a much higher level than purely an animalistic need to procreate.
Some women choose a partner strictly by the size of their bank balance.
You might say that is superficial , i might say she is just attracted by his status and the lifestyle he can offer , and this honestly gets her panties all wet.
And Men are visual creatures yes. But women are emotional creatures , so a partner with a tight body is not as important to a women as it is a man.
Again not Arguing, just throwing it out there |
Miles Baker
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Paul Knox wrote on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 05:05 pm:our looks are not why we were attracted to each other
I would hope not.
Paul Knox wrote on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 05:05 pm: You have never mentioned , intellect , sense of humour, conversationalist , spontaneous , lifestyle , interests etc
Because that's not what we are talking about here. Don't get confused that I am saying physical attraction is everything. I'm definitely not.
What I am saying is that it is not nothing. People expect their partners to just accept them growing fat and unattractive, and have it not affect their relationship at all. That's just not realistic chief. Sure it probably won't break you up, but is it good? No.
I do not choose my girlfriends by physical appearance. But I'm not silly enough to say that it doesn't come into it at all. I think it's a lot bigger a deal than most of us are willing to acknowledge. Your wife is hot.. if she had been 300 pounds and butt ugly do you think you honestly would have stuck around and learned about her great personality 3 seconds after you first met? Perhaps not?
My girlfriends are not all supermodels by any means. But they do all put some effort into their appearance. I do look for that. It shows a little about who they are and it also does attract me initially and pique the interest. What I am getting at is that Australian society is losing this value, and it turns me off. I take care of my appearance and I enjoy being around others who do too.
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David Vaughan
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Now we're talking 
I refrained from mentioning earlier, because it was not really to the point, that I have met Paul and can vouch for at least half of his family description and would have no surprise at the rest. Miles' personal narrative has been internally consistent for a long time and I believe him, too.
My point is that I am seconding, not cheerleading.
We seem to have switched the subject gradually from women to men but it is the same thing, really. |
Paul Knox
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Miles Baker wrote on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 05:14 pm:What I am saying is that it is not nothing. People expect their partners to just accept them growing fat and unattractive, and have it not affect their relationship at all. That's just not realistic chief. Sure it probably won't break you up, but is it good? No.
As you get older you inevitably get unattractive , get wrinkles get a muffin top or a love handle or lose you muscular physique, but to each other you are still beautiful, thats basically my point about finding the right one, and your priorities changing , your focus changing !
I too had trouble understanding this at 18 , even 30 , now nudging 40 , i'm getting it.!
So you think your going to pumping weights and doing cardio classes at 60 ?
Maybe you are , who knows, but you are right about some people being complacent.
but Ii also think you have a very narrow view of happiness being related to how good a body you have. |
Miles Baker
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David Vaughan wrote on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 07:08 pm:We seem to have switched the subject gradually from women to men but it is the same thing, really
The eyebrow is raised!
Paul I'm just saying that I'll make the effort and be the best of whatever I can be. Compare that to the current state of the population who are just lazy and seem to have no regard for their appearance. Fine at 60 I am not expecting to be in super shape (though there are some 60 year old dudes in good shape at the gym and I expect to be one of them). But where we started was the current average state of 25 and 30 year old women in this country, which is much bigger than it should be or was 10 years ago. I am hoping we can at least agree on that. Whether or not we keep making an effort for our partner into our 60s really should be another topic. |
Aiden Cheese
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I still can't believe people would fight so strongly against the base point that you should exercise yourself enough to keep healthy |
Miles Baker
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Amen. If for no other reason than to stay healthy and active, I will exercise until I day. Stuff being a weak old guy. I plan on powering thru to the grave. I see dudes in their 70s still kicking ass restoring old cars. That's where I plan on being. Not some old dude with zero muscle, weak bones and a pot belly. |
Paul Knox
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Yeah totally agree on that point.
not arguing , discussing. as i mentioned before i was just providing another point of view.
bascially saying looks aren't everything, you can be overweight and happy and hopefully if you find the right person to be with , they will love you no matter what.
it is good to be healthy, but life can throw you curve balls and as you age your priorities can change.
so what you think now might not be the same in 10 years time.
i think i was just trying to broaden the discussion if anything.
cheers |
Miles Baker
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Now how 'bout some racy shots of your missus?  |
Perry Morgan
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Paul Knox wrote on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 - 05:05 pm:I'm not fat and my wife is F&*#king Hot !!!
But i do find her as, if not more attractive now than when i first her.
We are best friends and although we are what you would consider Good looking, our looks are not why we were attracted to each other.
I must have married her sister. She is super honest, my best mate and lets me get away with murder. But to be honest looks are a big part of when we hooked up. It's what made me want to meet her after I saw her across the room. THEN I got to know her personality. I've met some stunners who become very unattractive after you get to know them.
And I second Miles about the pictures. Someone else's turn. Last time SOMEONE put up a RACY pic of Mel, out came the feminists, the forum went all to hell and there were bannings hahaha. |
Miles Baker
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Really Perry? I don't believe you. Can you provide a link to the post? |
Perry Morgan
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Hahaha. The thread was nuked (along with some people). Was on the old ALSC. Bloody Rob Hayden was the "Someone" I was referring to as well. Shifty sod he is  |
Peter Nitschke
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More tolerant, mature and less hypocritical audience here now Perry.
How about you add some of your legendary photo collection to the Camel Toe thread as well?
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Perry Morgan
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Peter Nitschke wrote on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 01:11 pm:How about you add some of your legendary photo collection to the Camel Toe thread as well?
Collected off the net or "other" |
Nina Smart
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Obviously that didn't work...
Not trying to make excuses or be aggressive here Miles, attempting to give you a little insight... help you understand the other side a little better. •••• happens to all of us and we all deal with it differently. and yes he did shove food down my mouth.... but that's not the point i was trying to make.
You say it was damn hard to gain a bit of muscle and that awesome for you for doing it if that's what you really want to do. I'm sure your mind set is assisting you too right? But you have to see it's the same if not harder for some people to lose a bit of weight. And that's only if they want to. I have met so many people these days who dont want to because of comments like yours and other experiences. Stubbornness goes both ways.
I guess you wouldnt be able to have a proper grasp on it being the way you are, but that would be like me trying to understand guys finding it hard to gain weight and muscle when in my mind its so easy, the oppposite is tough for me but easy for you... get my point? I'm sure if I ate nothing but a tiny bit of rice and porridge or the like and made to do manual labour everyday I would lose more weight. I'm not far off it mind you. Why dont I just stop eating overall hey?
And yes ok that is a horrible photo. and admittantly "perfect" was not the best word to use. But believe it or not there are men who chase women who look that way because that is what they find attractive. Who speak the way you do about thin women. |
Miles Baker
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Perfect? I saw her on GNW a month ago and her legs were the size of my waist. She's apparently a size "14" and I wager a big 14 and only even that because the sizes were expanded a few years ago. This mentality of saying THAT is perfect is wrong. It is not perfect and saying so leads people to accept that their fatness is fine. It isn't. Australians have had a long history of slinging off at Americans for being fat, and as far as I'm concerned the shoe is now on the other foot. And what do I hear from Australians? Whingeing BS excuses.
It's not that hard to lose weight. If you want hard, try putting on muscle when you are born a bean pole. That is hard god damn work. I had to put on 60 fcking pounds of muscle. Imagine how much agony I went through in the gym for 4 years doing that. Did and still do. Losing weight is 90% just controlling what you eat. The only hard work is in your head. There is no blaming anything or anyone else for not doing that work.
Excuses are a dime a dozen. I've heard them all. I'm sure you don't like reading me type that, but it's the hard truth. "Us women are extremely emotional creatures": sorry but that just doesn't hold water for me. Women the rest of the world over seem to get along OK.
Blaming guys and genetics and everything else is just a cop out. Either that or Australian women are just genetically different to women overseas? More emotional or something? Bullsh1t. It's the culture. It accepts and even promotes being fat.
Read your post. You managed to blame everyone under the sun there except yourself. You blamed your lifestyle and that you don't have the time to put in. Everyone has the time to control what they put in their mouth. Then you blamed emotions, depression and eating disorders which are apparently caused by outside influences which you have no control of. Crap. Then you blamed one or even two men, I can't tell. I suppose he held you down and pushed food into your mouth? Then again you blame not having time because you work so hard. Again, you've got the time to put food in your mouth. Then you blame your genes and your mother and your childhood and then your frame. What a myth. Not once did you take any responsibility.
I am sure I will cop sh1t for this post for being harsh, but as frequent readers will know, I don't care. It's the truth. And the truth is that the reason why people in this country are now the fattest on earth is because we have a society which does not tell the truth, which coddles people and promotes laziness and irresponsibility. People need to grow some fcking backbone and wake up to themselves. As a nation we're getting disgusting. |
Miles Baker
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Front arses are not fine.
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Perry Morgan
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My old Uncle used to say that "I never saw a fat bloke come out of a concentration camp, regardless of his genes". 
In saying that, I guess the poor buggers were on quite a strict diet 
When my wife who I consider to be normal, fit and slender woman has to shop in stores tailored to Asians or the children's section of the shop to get clothes then there is something wrong. Bit hard to find sexy clothes in the kiddies corner! |
Peter Nitschke
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Here I sit having a coffee break and a couple of biscuits, while getting some of my daily entertainment quota.
Miles, there is truth and honesty to what you say - as always, and I like that about your posts, but heck, you also make me really appreciate people with a good handle on diplomacy and tact, along with a bit of empathy and understanding!
We aren't all the same, we don't all have the same influences and pressures, or the same dedication and will power to be brutally single minded about some things - like weight control.
I accept the ebb and flow of factors affecting relationships, from weight, wrinkles, hair colour and quantity and other physical issues that can change over time, and also temperment, sense of humour, sharing and caring which can all be affected by distractions and issues in life including job security or job loss, relationship upheavals, illness, tragedy and so on.
My dear mother slowly put on weight after having 2 kids - did I love her less, or lose any respect? Of course not. Now at the age of 86 with the spectre of diabetes looming she has made a mighty effort and gotten her weight down to what it was before I was born. Do I love her more? Of course not.
Am I impressed with the weight loss? Hell yeah, it's a big achievement considering that she has been over weight for over 50 years, and is now beyond doing gym workouts to help manage her weight.
But my view of her is not changed at all by the weight changes.
Hopefully I will be able to maintain a stable relationship with my wife and kids, unchanged by the factors of aging and personal lifestyle choices.
Yes, I would love to be fit, lean and strong, but right now I don't have the motivation I need to get into really good shape, but I hope I am not judged too harshly because of it.
While I appreciate people that are in good shape, I try not to judge too harshly those that are outside the definition of perfect.
Extreme obesity however is hard to ignore and tolerate.  |
Miles Baker
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Pete, I'm addressing the fat problem of Australia here. I'm all for being tolerant and kind and so forth (really I am), but there is a point when the truth has to come out. It's not that big a bloody deal is it? People are fat and they are making excuses for it, and it's rubbish. When I was in primary school, we had two fat kids out of 50 in my level. Now that number would be more like 15-20. That is wrong.
Like I said, Australians have given it to Americans for years about being fat. Well, now Australians are just as fat if not fatter. It turns me right off. It shows a basic lack of pride in ourselves and utter laziness. The reason why this is happening is that it is now acceptable in common society. I don't think that should be the case. I'm pretty sure most people should be in agreement with that. Fat is not actually correct. It's the single largest health problem we have. Bigger than smoking. Noone pulls their punches about smoking do they?
I have all the empathy and understanding in the world, if people are honest and take responsibility. If they don't, I have zero. Why was it so easy 20 years ago for people to keep their weight in check but now it requires brutal single mindedness? Change in attitudes, that is all. All this garbage that an overweight woman on a magazine is a good thing because she has a "real" body? What a decline we have had as a society if being in shape is now unrealistic. Again, other countries seem to be able to work it out.
It's just simple nutrition for fcks sake. People have been able to work it out for generations. I had a girlfriend who whined and moaned about how hard it was to lose 10kg. Constant endless whingeing and complaining. I wasn't concerned at all by her weight, she was 67kg which wasn't terrible and I really loved her. Finally I got her to join Weight Watchers at work and just stick to the meals in their little book. Not so hard. She lost the 10kg quicker than all the super fat women in there could. And was it such an earth shattering experience? No. It's just eating for fcks sake. Seriously, not that hard to control. Grow up people. If we are promoting that life is so hard that one cannot even be expected to be responsible about what one sticks in one's piehole, we have surely become a nation of weak cry babies. We can't even maintain our own bodies in a healthy state and it is bad to say that that is wrong? Fruck me.
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Matt Sartori
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I'm curious as to why other peoples life styles matter to you so much? |
Anika Le
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Miles, I respect your opinion and I do agree with parts of it but you do have to understand that there are environmental factors as Nina has pointed out.
Genes do play a role as some people tend to easily put on the weight, whereas the blessed ones have a fast metabolism hence not gaining any.
It is, as you say, state of mind as well and I agree but when you are faced with life experiences or pressures, it throws you off balance and it can easily get the better of you. Everyone's situation is different so who are we to judge what they are doing with their lives or how fat they've become etc. But I do agree that in the end, you only got yourself to blame. |
Mike Bradberry
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Oh, a battle royal. Go for it.
If I look at film or video of Australians of decades ago, I see just a few overweight people. They seem to even stand out as unusual. Today it's a different story and I think it may have a lot to do with the availability of junk food, sit down entertainment, indoor lifestyle, too much negative information over which we have no control (hence the consumption of comfort food) and the apparent acceptance of this malaise.
Personally, I don't give a rats ar** what my friends look like, but I do care what I look like and make the effort (as stated before) to stay slim and keep fit.
I acknowledge we are all different and handle situations differently, but the fact remains, we are responsible for self. |
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Mike Bradberry wrote on Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 04:51 pm:I acknowledge we are all different and handle situations differently, but the fact remains, we are responsible for self.
Exactly. |
David Vaughan
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Supporting what Mike said, I quote a study by Hill & Trowbridge in 1998,
quote:Despite obesity having strong genetic determinants, the genetic composition of the population does not change rapidly. Therefore, the large increase in ...[obesity] must reflect major changes in non-genetic factors.
In other words, look not first to genetics. |
Paul Knox
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Thats as much of my wife as I'm prepared to show Miles.
Oh look is that a soarer or 2
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Miles Baker
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Looks like she's got a ripper personality
I want to make it clear my intent was not to address individual cases here. I didn't want to get into judgment on particular circumstances in people's lives or even hypotheticals. All I am trying to say is the country is getting fat and the reasons for it are sh1t.
Matt, it affects me plenty. First, I am a single guy. Fat chicks everywhere = less fun times for me. Second, I pay a buttload of tax into a health system that pays the bills for obesity. Third, it saddens me that Australians have gone from being famous for looking good like Mike said, to looking like poms. When I travel people used to say "whoa Australia, they got hot women down there". People don't say that any more. |
Aiden Cheese
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I don't agree with every point miles is putting out here, but I do disagree with a few things others are saying here.
1) People are all different.
Yes, get over it. Some of you will have to work harder than others to stay less than obese. Its a test of character. We can all very phyiscally see your dedication to your own health if you dont' pay attention to it.
2) Gene's cause obeseity
And my forefathers raped and pillaged countless cities, so naturally i have genes in me which lead to anger more often. Excuse me for occasionally getting into fights. Not an excuse? No its not. Refer to point 1.
3) Some people have it easy.
In this discussion you say its easy with those with fast metabolisms. Thats no excuse to just ignore your own and blame god for what you weren't given. A metabolism can be trained. Some people are lucky to have theirs, and its easier to maintain. They lose that if they don't maintain it.
4) I can still love my significant other no matter how fat she is.
That shouldn't be an excuse to let her get fat. If you notice an eating disorder, perhaps you'd be best to see what other problems lie within behind it.
5) Its too hard to get motivated.
You're a failure and that is never an excuse in anything ever, so why should it be in this? In fact if you get fit you'll find the fitter you get, the more motivation you'll get. So if you're struggling with motivation, i strongly suggest exercise.
6) I'm happy with how i am and so are the people around me.
You're making excuses. You're using some great things about you and using them as excuses for things you're not good at. Well I'm fit and healthy and have kept down my solid job and have a nice car, maybe i'll just use those excuses for why i abuse women. It just doesn't work that way.
7) I just don't have the time to do that, i'm too busy
I'm going to say because if you are obese or even just unhappy with your weight, you should make time. You need to consider what you prioritise. It's hard to really convince somoene who doesn't want to be convinced, but trust me if you make the time, you'll gain the time back in having more energy per day. Also in less downtime.
But again I'd like to point out that I'm totally against excuses for people being obese. I'm much more lenient of those who's weights shift around in the "fat" category, although i know a lot of them would be much happier if they just got their •••• together. But at least when you're just fat you're not even nearly as likely to have health risks or inability to do normal things.
Personally, I still think someone very rich who's obese is going to be less happy than someone who doesn't have a lot of extra things in life but has a healthy body. It's just such a basic necessity, i'd rank it just a little less necessary than food, water and shelter. If you don't have that need you can't appreciate the things above it. Think back to high school and "Maslow's hierarchy of needs" sure its been debunked, but its still taught because it holds some truths. You will be happier assuming you meet your needs lower down first.
Anyway I don't care about any of you slobs (although if you are making a go at losing weight, great for you!) these are all things i've noticed either with being a skinny underweight guy and starting to exercise more, and also hanging around some pretty overweight guys and girls who have lost quite a lot of weight and couldn't imagine ever going back. That for me is proof of what I'm saying here, but I mean each to their own. Just don't expect me to bow to your opinion that it's "OK" because I'm going to tell you it's not. I don't think it should be. I'm not going to enable you. Although if you did want to play a game of squash once a week i'd gladly join you! Especially if it was in the name of supporting someone who was trying to lose weight (i'm always looking for new squash players )}
edit: i just wanted to add, losing weight is a battle that sometimes you have to tackle with people. Sure you might be motivated to lose it for a few weeks, but it gets lonely doing it yourself. Remember you have friends, get them to come to the gym with you. You have family, get them to come for a walk in the evenings (or light jog) around the suburb. If you know someone who's trying to lose weight, do you both a favor and help them do it. While doing it with my friends, i really improved my own opinion of my body and feel much more energy in the day.
edit2: also just keep setting new goals for youself if you do try an exercise routine. Myself, i started barely able to do 20 pushups. I wanted to push myself, i said i want to do 50. When i hit 50 i said 100! I'm half way there, i'm at 75 in a single set, and i do 300 monday wed and friday. Similar with situps and weights, just set either higher weight or more reps. |
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