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Camron Garcia
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Kingston
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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 02:11 pm, by:  Camron Garcia (Killacam) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm from the East and I keep seeing posts where people say Australian/NZ dynos read differently from ones in America. Whats the difference and how do you convert?
Miles Baker
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Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 02:40 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some people say it's true, others don't. Some people say those claiming it are trying to make excuses. Many people agree that if you really want to judge power output, check your terminal speed at the track. I don't know, I don't really care any more. The American dynos are apparently mostly inertia dynos and the popular Dyno Dynamics here are eddy current. It seemed to me that the eddy current dyno, being able to hold the roller at a constant speed, should actually read higher....

Personally I believe more in inertia dynos as they measure the power output of the car as it accelerates. The load cell dynos do all sorts of other stuff that I don't find as comfortable. They are probably better tuning tools, but I feel you should measure horsepower as the engine accelerates, because that is how it works on the road/track.
Aaron Mead
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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 01:58 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That question is too much like how long is a piece of string? What gear is the car dyno'd in? Whats the air temp? Whats the humidity? Whats the ramp rate in the dyno? Is it strapped down properly or is it riding the front roller only Etc...etc..

You get substantially different readings if you use the same brand of dyno here on the same day but with different software, as well you get big differences between brands, and between hub/rollers/inertia/single and dual retarder/eddy.

SAE adjusted dyno's should read similar, but with the number of inputs that cause the software to make adjustments, how can you ever tell?

Dyno=tuning tool. The only HP/TQ numbers worth looking at are the differences, as percentages before and after modification.
Andrew Duaso
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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 02:23 pm, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my butt dyno is the most accurate

if my pants are brown after the ride, then it was fast!
Luke Nieuwhof
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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:41 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In general Camron the American figures are higher. Or they are using 'at the engine' figures.
Steven Anderson
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Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:55 pm, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not so much about location and more about brands that are used.

Dynojet is generally accepted as ~10% below engine hp.
Dyno Dynamics is generally accepted as ~30% below engine power.
'Mustang' Dyno (another US brand) are also supposed to be around 30%.

As said, mph is where its at, its a tuning tool primarily.

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