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David Vaughan
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Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 03:07 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's a risk that needs to be recognised and treated deliberately, not greeted with amazement after an attack, that is all.
Callum Finch
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Monday, February 22, 2010 - 07:05 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Paul Knox wrote on Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 11:25 am:

No animal is 100% predictable.



This statement keeps getting thrown around.
Of course no animal is 100% predictable. Just like no human is unpredictable.
Whats to stop your best mate or parter stabbing you in the back with a kitchne knife when you arent looking? Nothing. You trust that your relationship with them is such that this wont happen.

Animal ownership can be attributed the same way. Dogs especially are simple animals. Simple in that if you establish your dominance over them and train them correctly you are less likely to encounter issues.
Small dogs can still do a lot of damage to a kid if they choose to.

A responsible owner would understand appropriate training is a requirement for any domestic pet.

My mum has a massive dog at home, bigger than a Dobermann and he is the friendliest dog i have ever encountered. He is more concerned about where his ball is than anything else. My mum frequently looks after close friends' young kids (18 months and 3 years old) and the most aggressive thing he has done with them to try and establish dominance is push them to the side by walking past them closely.

...in saying all of that though, some breeds are completely inappropriate for any form of domestication. This again comes back to being a responsible owner.


Good luck with your search, Anika.
Natasha D'Abreo
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Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 11:06 am, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe look in the trading post. I love dogs they are all absoloutly gorgeous, big dogs are like gentle giants, My dog Brewster is a pomeranian cross german spitz and he is 15 and still going strong, sure he bumps into chairs and when i call him he goes the other way but still he is cute. Sometimes little dogs are more crazy and agressive. I want a Huski.
Do you want the dog as a pup or a little older? Hope you find the one for you.
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Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 11:09 am, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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This is Brewster!
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Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 12:41 pm, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Callum - is proving to be harder than I thought.

Natasha - have been looking everywhere but a lot of places are saying "pure bred but no papers". Skeptical as you never know that it might turn out to be mixed. Prefer puppy as I will be training him. I love huski's too but they malt like crazy!

Have managed to source a puppy from NZ for under $2k and another in WA for $2,200! Lol you can call me crazy but at least I know that they're from champion lines.
Natasha D'Abreo
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Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 01:07 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your going to spend 2k on the pup? At least its good to know that your going to look after your pet. Make sure you budget for all the vet bills. Are you getting a male or female? U planning on breeding them?
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Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 01:41 pm, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why not get a dog from the pound? Dobermans turn up from time to time. Maybe even look at a mixed breed. A mutt will be less likely to have genetic issues which pure bred dogs in Australia seem plagued with.
Anika Le
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Wednesday, March 03, 2010 - 09:52 am, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Natasha - Yes I am willing to spend that much for piece of mind! I have researched their parents (American bloodlines), great genetic history. Going for a male. Don't plan on breeding, maybe if the opportunity arises.

Bobby - absolutely none around in the pound because they get snapped up just like that! High demand. And I would not agree on getting a mixed dobermann are they are more prone to health issues. Not sure for other breeds though.
Perry Morgan
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Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 07:01 am, by:  Perry Morgan (Uzz32) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anika, almost every breed that has been in the country for a while will have a rescue society associated with it. It's like a pound but specifically for the breed.

http://doberman.rescueme.org/au

http://www.vicdobes.com.au/index.php

http://dobermannnsw.homestead.com/homesneeded.html

http://www.dogzonline.com.au/ <----- Great site for info.


Now if anyone can point the way to a French Bulldog pup that is not over 2-3K, I'd be very happy lol.
Mel Morgan
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Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 08:54 am, by:  Mel Morgan (Active8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anika, if you contact the Canine Council for the area you are looking at then they can probably give you some contact details for Dobe breeders.
Good on you for purchasing correctly, it is always good to go with a reputable breeder for the sake of the animal. Any good breeder will recognise any bad traits or health problems in their line and will breed that out. Big dogs usually have their health problems, trust me I know lol
If you have done your research and you know what sort of lineage you want then any breeder that you call will be able to tell you if they have a puppy for you, and in most cases will recommend another breeder if they don't have one suitable.

I most certainly wouldn't be worried about spending that sort of money on a good puppy, I mean it doesn't guarantee that you are going to get an issue free dog but your chances are certainly better.

I love to look at dogs and breeders so I will start to have a little hunt for you.
I personally would not go for a rescue dog in a breed like this, not that I don't love rescue, but a lot of the time these types of dogs are chosen for the purpose of guarding and if not trained right it can be a real challenge to get that bad training out of them.

Good luck with your hunt.
Natasha D'Abreo
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Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 04:38 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A few weeks ago, my brother and sister found a little female jack russell on our door step, it was very random... We couldnt find its owner so we had no other option but to give it to the pound, but my mate ended up buying her otherwise she would get put down. When we went there, gosh its so horrible, all the dogs are sooo cute! They are absoloutly adorable, i wanted to get all of them. They had heaps of different breads. I think you have to pay $365, well my mate did, but they fix them, give them all there shots and microchip them. Anika Im not to big on female dogs for some reason, Iv only had one pup, and he's a male, but he is the best!
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Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 06:06 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2k for a dog, come on.

I guess I'm not much of a dog person.
Perry Morgan
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Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 08:30 pm, by:  Perry Morgan (Uzz32) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Boris Siljanoski wrote on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 06:06 pm:

2k for a dog, come on.




3-3.5k is normal price for em :-( . Supply and demand.
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Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 10:03 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow 2k is cheap then. Can they be trained to fetch beer and newspaper?
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Friday, March 05, 2010 - 06:54 am, by:  Perry Morgan (Uzz32) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't drink beer and the news in the paper already happened a day ago.......so no need
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Friday, March 05, 2010 - 09:00 am, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Boris Siljanoski wrote on Thursday, March 04, 2010 - 06:06 pm:

2k for a dog, come on.




I am paying for a companion and a guard dog. Worth it I say. I'm paying extra for the blood line - more guarantee to have less health issues. Still worth it.

People have paid 2k or more for stupid things...
Natasha D'Abreo
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Friday, March 05, 2010 - 09:41 am, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats very true, i have bag Just under 2k for a handbag, I really regret that now, I dont use it. A dog is well worth the money.
David Brunt
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Friday, March 05, 2010 - 02:06 pm, by:  David Brunt (Dbrun) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anika try
http://www.dobermannwa.com/

my aunty bought her two from www.bravadobe.com hers are both lovely dogs.

me i'd still go for german shepherds. i have two and wouldnt trade them for anything. be careful with dobermans, they are no matter what you try very boistrous for the first couple of years and can be very dumb(immature) as well. They definitely do not suit a small yard.
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Friday, March 05, 2010 - 02:59 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guess so, at least the dog can do something, by the time you spend all the money saving up for a 2k handbag, you'll have no leftover money to put in it.
Anika Le
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Friday, March 05, 2010 - 03:34 pm, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David, I have already tried Bravadobe but they said that they're waiting list has become quite extensive and are no longer taking orders

I've been in contact with SwanValley Dobermanns, do you know their background/reputation by chance?
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Friday, March 05, 2010 - 04:39 pm, by:  David Brunt (Dbrun) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i can ask some people. i know a lot of people who own dobermanns and they've bought them from all over. so someone should know something. i'll see what i can come up with.
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Friday, March 05, 2010 - 04:47 pm, by:  David Brunt (Dbrun) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My aunty's friend bought her dog from swan valley. Apparently a really pleasant dog. Used for shows etc. They seem to have a good background and the breeder is really helpful, but I've never met any of the dogs from there so this is all just "here Say" hope it helps.
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Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 02:22 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd like to add that for those who may not have much experience with dogs there is nothing wrong with an "undocumented" blood line in a dog.

It all depends in what you are looking for.

My mum's dog is a perfect example; an undocumenetd poodle cross laboradore cross golden retriever (solly abloot spleeling). She bought him from a random pet store she stumbled across.

This dog is the friendliest, most intelligent dog i have ever experienced.
Whats more, he is one of the most qualified dogs in the COUNTRY for searching for people lost in the bush, city and even in demolished buildings (ie, rubble piles). He was at one stage considered operational however due to the politics of professional dog handling in Western Australia he has met an early retirement =(

I can say all i like about how smart my mum's dog is however the truth is simply he has been trained this way. No dog or any other animal will naturally fit any sort of pre-determined template. It all comes down to the training (or lack of) that the animal receives.

For those who are looking at purchasing domesticated animals (ie, dogs, cats.. ugh.. parrots, horses, goats) make sure if you have any hopes for them doing anything outside of being a feral animal you do your homework first... and be prepared to put some time and effort in to training.
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Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 09:12 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 'Darwin Special'. All sorts of wierd Lab, Sharpae, Dingo, German, ridge.

Its the loveliest dog in the world. Its so friendly it never barks. Kids in the street always come to pat it and call it 'the nice dog'. Obedient as anything, and dumb enough not to be concerned.

I still wouldn't trust it around toddlers etc. Idon't believe there is any animal that can be trusted 100% of the time. Except for the dog in Footrot Flats.
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Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 12:38 pm, by:  Anika Le (Hime1901) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thought I'd update.

I am still on the waiting list for a Dobermann in WA but look what landed in my hands...


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Adopted him as the owner could not give him adequate care. I named him Apollo!
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Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 09:01 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

awwwwwwwwwwww
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Sunday, July 11, 2010 - 12:28 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awww he is gorgeous!

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