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Ben Daniel
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 03:10 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sure enough this story has made its way across the country and its a pretty big thing going on in Perth but to fill in those who don't know... heres the jist.

Nearly 4 months ago Thornlie council were cleaning up the rear chopping down or trimming trees that were deemed "unsafe" if harsh winds or a storm were to hit. Mr Peter Pettigrew who obviously has lived at the house for some time strongly objected to the tree being cut down, so much in fact that he set up a flatform and has camped up in the tree as a protest... we are well over 100 days now and since he started he's had council laywers threaten him, police threaten him and people who think he's an idiot threaten him.

Numerous attempts to get Peter out of the tree have failed, he has been warned with a $5000 fine with an additional $500 per day he remained up there. He didn's budge and as far as I know his lawyers went to court and the case was thrown out as it was discovered that the tree was in fact NOT council property.

Anyways, the worst storm in Perth's history hit last week and Mr Pettigrew remained in the tree and came out completely un-scathed and no overly big branches came off. So basically he proved his point and came out of the tree for it to be taken over by one of his supporters.

When the supporter went up there council decided they would have another crack at trying to cut the tree down but again failed. At this point I believe peter realised his work wasn't done and went back up there.

The other day Council, Police, Fire departments etc etc were called in to assist in cutting down the tree so Peter climbed to the very top and strapped himself to it. Council and everyone were threatening to cut the tree down with him in it if he didn't come out but seeing as Peter obviously has a brain on him and realised that NO MATTER what, no council would never cut a tree down with someone in it due to the public backlash and repocussions has still remained in there.

Now today, council lawyers are trying to threaten him again with the $5000 fine and $500 a day he remains but also added "Regardless of what you decide, the tree is getting cut down at midday" Peter didn't come out and guess what.... the tree remains.

so the saga continues...

First of all, at first I thought about Peter as being a tree hugging hippee and though he was a loser to care about a tree that much but since things have unfolded and due to the way the council have been acting about it I have gained a lot of respect for him, to stand up against authorities and council over something you strongly believe in is highly admirable let alone to stay up in a tree for over 100 day's without having a shower, anything or anyone to keep you entertained is something to take your hat off to and despite everything, Peter still makes jokes and takes the whole thing in his stride.

I ask myself but, WHEN will council just bite the bullet and give up.... for sake, its a f*cking tree. It seems they care too much to be over powered by a civilian that they would rather waste thousands of local tax payers money to try and prove a point which is really nothing more than "I told you so"

Seriously... if it got to this point and I was heading the council I would probably just say "wow... if this tree means that much to you, fine, we'll leave it" but they continue to waste money and resources on just getting 1 tree cut down and that SERIOUSLY pisses me off to no avail.

To the Thornlie council, WA police and anyone else involved, I say this, GET THE F*CK OVER IT AND GET BACK TO DOING WHATEVER THE F*CK IT IS YOU DO... ITS A TREE... STOP WASTING MY TAX MONEY ON GETTING A TREE CUT DOWN AND START SPENDING IT ON TIDYING UP THIS HOLE OF A SUBURB (NOT CUTTING DOWN THE TREE OF COURSE). Bunch of fu*king babies.

/end rant.

Sorry, had to get that off my chest. Sorry for bad punctuation etc etc... I typed this in like 5 minutes.


let the debate start.
Marc Hoffmann
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 04:43 pm, by:  Marc Hoffmann (Rushed) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that man is a legend, we need more people like him in my opinion.

we are having our rights slowly taken away from us day by day, turning from the nanny state we currently are, into something much worse.

it takes quite a person to stand up against "the man" and not many people are willing to lead the way, good on him.
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 05:10 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

+1 he is a legend.
Boris Siljanoski
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 05:51 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm going to my mates place in Thornlie, he lives close to the tree man so I might see him up there if he's not hidden.

Now why are the council trying to cut a tree that doesn't belong to them?
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:03 pm, by:  Jerzy Stopczynski (Stomps) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i agree.. Council has 2 options.. 1 tranquiliser the grizzly bear style, catch him in a net and cut the tree down.. or move the on..

stop giving the dude attention..

good on him for standing up for what he believes in etc... but honestly, there are far more important things going on in this world.. this bullshit shouldnt be making news..

Stomps
Ben Daniel
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:51 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jerzy Stopczynski wrote on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:03 pm:

i agree.. Council has 2 options.. 1 tranquiliser the •••••••••••• grizzly bear style, catch him in a net and cut the ••••••• tree down.. or move the •••• on..

stop giving the dude attention..

good on him for standing up for what he believes in etc... but honestly, there are far more important things going on in this world.. this bullshit shouldnt be making news..

Stomps


Option 1 (from a public perspective) would have just as much backlash and he could sue the council or the person who shot him for big $$$$$ option 2 will only happen when the council drop the whole thing.

I agree with you though, enoughs enough, there's much more important things going on in the world but its not HIM that's drawing the attention, its the council drawing all the attention over how much of an issue they are making over 1 f*cking tree....

The amount of money they have spent on resources going into this, police, loppers etc etc would now be HUGE and the council show no signs of stopping cause they are a bunch of overpaid retards. Lol, the money saved from just saying to Peter "no worries mate, you can keep your tree" might of been better spent on SOOOOO much more... like... um.... I don't know... Our public health system ??? which to me is a MUCH bigger issue that doesn't get anywhere near to attention it deserves.

Peter I believe hasn't done anything wrong except exercise freedom of speech and the right to protest... but seeing as the council is part to the government, they will never be told what to do. I fear this is either going to end in tragedy or it's just going to go ON and ON and ON with hundreds of thousands of dollars of tax payers money being wasted on police, council workers, council officials, loppers etc etc going out there everyday to "have another go" when all they do is usually stand around for hours doing NOTHING.

Fu*king...... Get....... Over...... It......
Boris Siljanoski
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 08:51 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why doesn't the council be smart about it, make it look like they've moved on. Once he gets off the tree, they should show up early in the morning and cut the tree down.
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 08:55 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The issue is, as much as this is all fun and games, what will be the repercussions if the council leave the tree, and then it does come down in a storm and kill someone...

There will be bitching and complaining and backlash and sueing like you wouldn't believe.

It could be looked at from the other side with the exact same arguement, 'it's just a tree, get over it.'
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 09:06 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

he is absolutely in the right and it shows the small mindedness and pettiness of the council to persue this issue. if the council was run in the public interest or even if it were run like a corporation they would have backed down long ago. to see local government acting in this way yet again might make one wonder what their role is apart from granting building permits to anyone offering a handjob or brown envelope.
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Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 09:36 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol just ringbark the bloody thing and leave him up there
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Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 12:31 am, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Kelly wrote on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 09:06 pm:

he is absolutely in the right and it shows the small mindedness and pettiness of the council to persue this issue.


This line works just as well from the other side as well. Something about his small mindedness and pettiness, trying to stand in the way of progress and not seeing the forest for the tree's (pun not intended)

Sure, he might like the tree, but will he cop it on the chin if it falls over and smashes his house or car?? No, he will be the first one in to the council with lawyers to sue and demand a gigantic bullshit compo claim.

There is likely many other issues involved that people don't see or aren't seeing.
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Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 07:56 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe youre right Dan, but i dunno it just seems that as the council is the instigator of the action and since it is after all them that are making the rules it should be them looking for consensus here. I mean after all arent they meant to represent the people? why do they seem to insist on forcing the hand of others through sheer persistence and a single mindedness that appears non negotiable? I can understand that people tend to have an opposition to this man because he acts and looks a bit different to most of us but isnt it admirable that he is doing something difficult in line with his values? and then all this talk of trees falling on people and possible law suits..i mean is this what this is about? the tree looks pretty sound to me. If this is not the case then surely we'd all like to hear exactly why and perhaps what sensible remedies might be taken in light of the view of this man and others.
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Friday, April 02, 2010 - 09:37 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the council were intelligent about it they could say to the guy "orrite, we wont cut it down as long as you are the title holder of the house. Once you move out we cut it down"

Hell why not even just work out which particular parts of the tree pose the risk and only cut them. Trees bounce back pretty well, especially natives.
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Friday, April 02, 2010 - 01:25 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If this tree really does pose a risk to the public or if there is another valid reason for removal, the idiot should be removed by force and the tree cut down.

If it does not pose risk to the public, leave the guy alone.

Would hate to see people walking passed and a branch to fall on them, has happened far too many times.
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Friday, April 02, 2010 - 04:48 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any tree can be classified as posing a risk just because it's there.

If that tree survived a hammering from that storm, then I suspect it has made it's own case for survival.
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Friday, April 02, 2010 - 05:08 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get someone up the tree, make sure he's safely fastened to whatever part of the tree. Bring in a crane and sling it to that part of the tree and cut off below him and lift that bit off and cut the rest down.
It's not rocket science.
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Friday, April 02, 2010 - 07:25 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha dave that would be funny as! if the media wasnt giving him so much bloody attention he would have got over it yonks ago.

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