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Natasha D'Abreo
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Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 08:12 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Today we tried to get the sump plug off a VY commodore, but it wouldnt come off, just wondering it is a 19mm socket that meant to be used? Its on really tight.
Brett Cutts
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Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 08:49 pm, by:  Brett Cutts (Boof390) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if some idiot has gotten strong with it I have had to use a single hex socket and a breaker bar a few times at work.
Boris Siljanoski
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Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 09:05 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Use a longer bar for more leverage.
Ali Saeed
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Wednesday, April 07, 2010 - 10:22 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i just got a half incher and started lightly tapping the end of it with a hammer. more torque that way
Matthew Sharpe
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:43 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And thats why you should always put a new washer on when you change your oil.
Dan McColl
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 04:33 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Turn Anti-clockwise to undo.
Aiden Cheese
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 05:00 pm, by:  Aiden Cheese (Chillpen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

there are crush washer kits from supercheap/repco etc they're just on the racks with the bolts and things. they're assorted sizes, just pick out the right one and you'll be right. that way you don't have to do it up as tight and next time you don't have to put your back out undoing it
Natasha D'Abreo
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Thursday, April 08, 2010 - 08:23 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

}We got a breaker bar which we are going to have a go tommorrow. The Plug has started to thread a bit. hope it comes off. Thankyou everyone!}
Dave Hart
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Friday, April 09, 2010 - 06:12 am, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When things like that are really tight a socket isn't the best as the socket is liable to tilt over, slip off, damage your hands and round off the hex. A correct size ring spanner held on and a hammer strike on the other is preferable.
If, when the plug is finally loosened, it still requires effort to fully remove then there's thread damage and a new one should be bought. The pan thread should be tapped out if the new plug doesn't go in easy.
While you're down there check that the 'land' that the plug washer goes up against isn't damaged.
Matthew Sharpe
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Friday, April 09, 2010 - 08:26 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or use a ring and open ended spanner, ring end on the plug, and hook another ring end over the open end to give more leverage. Works a treat in all sorts of tricky situations (exhaust nuts, stud removal etc)
Boris Siljanoski
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Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:25 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave it's more prone to happening when using cheap sockets with bad tolerances, never had a problem with slipping off on good sockets so long as I'm careful.

Giving the bolt a bit of shock helps also, I usually use the end of a extender bar and a hammer on to give the bolt a few hits and it's made it easier.

I bet that plug will definitely need a good washer somebody must have tightened it to breaking point.
Aaron Casey
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Friday, April 09, 2010 - 06:21 pm, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

make sure you use a single hex socket and breaker bar to loosen, not tighten lol as gets better contact with head of plug and better chance of getting off without stripping. if its stripped you are better off to replace the plug and washer as will just be worse the more you do it. done hundreds of them in commodores (holden mechanic) ive only had two or three ive had to cold chisel to get loose.
usually geta single hex socket and tap on with hammer and put pressure against it to give less chance of slipping and then undo it natasha.
Peter Burrett
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Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 09:48 am, by:  Peter Burrett (Burrett) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is Dan's comment correct?
Ian Johnston
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Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 04:33 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anti clockwise?? Yes, that is correct to undo.
Aiden Cheese
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 04:18 am, by:  Aiden Cheese (Chillpen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes.. the same as opening a tap. go try it..
Peter Burrett
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 09:00 am, by:  Peter Burrett (Burrett) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would, but (I'm glad to say) I don't have a Commodore
Aaron Casey
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 09:50 am, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i do they arent too bad. easy as to fix. just alot of idiots have them and act like wankers. just like alot of cars really.
Natasha D'Abreo
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 05:53 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My boyfriend and I have had a civic, an audi90 sport, a VR accliam, a toyota lexcen, a VY and my soarer and out of all of them I like the soarer the best, but our commodores are great fun too, at the moment we have a project car, the lexcen and It drives really nice. We got dicked for driving the car on a sunday to a mechanic with an unregistered permit, and had to pay $560. Apparently you cant drive them on weekends, and you cant have it on the naturestrip or any council property without a permit or it gets towed. I didnt even know. Anyways, commodores are really good, you can make them real fast and they look tough
Aaron Mead
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Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 09:17 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when in doubt, get the oxy out.
Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, April 12, 2010 - 07:27 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I tend to flip flop between them as Dad owned both at one stage or another, but I think based on the current crop of Falcons and Commodores, I'd definitely pick a Ford. As a road car, the current Falcons are just a step above the current Commo's, right across the range.

Of course ultimately I can always think of another car in the same price range I'd much rather have, so I very much doubt I'll ever own either.
Boris Siljanoski
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Monday, April 12, 2010 - 12:51 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Only commodore I'd drive is the VL TURBO.
Brett Cutts
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Monday, April 12, 2010 - 01:06 pm, by:  Brett Cutts (Boof390) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love commodores if not for trying to keep the heaps of c--p on the road bussines at work would drop of by about 70%
Peter Burrett
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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 05:25 pm, by:  Peter Burrett (Burrett) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry, didn't really mean to knock Commodores, back on topic - WHAT HAPPENED TO THE SUMP PLUG?
Natasha D'Abreo
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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 05:38 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

VL Turbos are great, massivly over priced though, id love a walkenshore (dont know how to spell it), we havnt serviced the car yet, we are going to to it tomorrow? so hopefully it works out alright. We did try a cheap 19mm socket and it began to thread, so we used a good socket and it didnt slip off but still didnt work. Tomorrow were going to use a breaker bar. By any chance can you use a rattle gun or its there not enough room. You need good leverage, maybe something long to push on. I dont know, everyones ideas have been very helpful though, so thanks people
Boris Siljanoski
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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 07:25 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Breaker bar is all you need.
Dan McColl
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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 07:57 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Rattle gun will work. Be careful.
Natasha D'Abreo
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Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 08:32 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will, im alright with my hands
Dave Hart
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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 07:18 am, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mmmmm! Evil thoughts entering my brain.
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rattle gun hahahaha nice one. i knew an apprentice worked for kmart tyre and auto in canberra used to use rattle gun for sump plugs lol
Natasha D'Abreo
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Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 07:47 pm, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We got the sump plug off with a breaker bar, thanks to matt weaver. Yay it worked, Thanks people!
Boris Siljanoski
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Thursday, April 15, 2010 - 09:33 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Next Challenge, removing oil cap.
Natasha D'Abreo
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Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:49 am, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

very funny doossh
Natasha D'Abreo
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Friday, April 16, 2010 - 10:54 am, by:  Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Girls arnt as good as doing mechanical things as guys, at least I try you bum
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Friday, April 16, 2010 - 02:53 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Watch out Boris- she's got a breaker bar with your name on it.

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