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Brian Coignet
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Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 12:08 pm, by: Brian Coignet (Brizal)

Hey guys and girls,

I got my motorbike license last year (learners) and have been able to ride that much since I'm a bit cash strapped!! But I realise now that my learners is about to end and now comes the time to wither go for my fulls or re-sit my learners. What I'm asking is how hard is it to get your fulls and which is cheaper. So pretty much what should I do???

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Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 09:11 pm, by: James Harris (Haro)

How hard is it??

Mate its just like your car test but you are riding a bike .. d'uh.

They will test you on all the same things:
- hill starts
- road positioning
- parking your bike rearwards into the path
- following the road rules etc etc etc.

Do you even have a bike? Prob not worth doing either unless you plan on buying a bike in the near future anyways.

If you have access to a bike that you are comfortable riding, then do the proper test.

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Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 11:05 pm, by: Nathan Machin (Nthside_soarer)

I Agree with James, mind you I have been riding for nearly 16years on the road so my test was a while ago, but yeah mate the test is exactly the same as a car.

Just go for it man whats the worse thats gonna happen??? you fail you get told why and you improve your skillz, simple bro

Good luck either way

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Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 02:13 pm, by: Brian Coignet (Brizal)

I heard the full licence is easier then the learners, I pretty much wanted to confirm this. Furthermore I do have a bike, however I am finalizing a few little details on it. Hence why I can not ride it to do the test. So James it was just a few questions which I was looking for helpful advice, not to be approached with a condescending tone.

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Friday, June 11, 2010 - 09:09 pm, by: Steven Anderson (Cusscuss)

James Harris wrote on Wednesday, June 09, 2010 - 09:11 pm:
How hard is it??

Mate its just like your car test but you are riding a bike .. d'uh.

They will test you on all the same things:
- hill starts
- road positioning
- parking your bike rearwards into the path
- following the road rules etc etc etc.

Do you even have a bike? Prob not worth doing either unless you plan on buying a bike in the near future anyways.

If you have access to a bike that you are comfortable riding, then do the proper test.

I really really hope your wrong about this. The NSW motorcycle training and tests are so far ahead of the car tests its not funny. They teach you properly and actually test you on things that matter like emergency braking and avoidance.

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Saturday, June 12, 2010 - 01:31 am, by: Nathan Machin (Nthside_soarer)

depends on how u get your license in QLD, my mate recently went to the rider training and they taught him that stuff

I have gone to the advanced rider training and that was awesome, but yeah depends on how you go for your license as to whether or not they teach you that stuff Steven

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Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 12:19 pm, by: Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom)

I found the test for my probationary bike licence easy as pie. I had to go to Shepparton to do it since you can't get it in Bendigo! Mind you, this was a number of years ago now...

From what I remember there was a written component, and you get on one of their horrid chucker bikes and ride through cones, do a braking test etc etc. A bit like your L's, but the level of competency they're expecting from you is heaps higher. If you've been riding for a few years, you should be fine... but get one of those books from the post office/newsagents to brush up on your road rules first!

Natasha D'Abreo
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Tuesday, June 15, 2010 - 08:24 pm, by: Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad)

my brother got his recently and had to remember the rules and all that

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Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 10:26 pm, by: Dan McColl (Hoon)

Don't do it.

You will just die like everyone else who rides bikes.

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 08:37 am, by: Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad)

Dont be stupid... not everyone that rides a motor bike dies... As long as you drive sensibly and look out for other drivers around you, you will be ok.

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 08:49 am, by: David Henderson (Hendo)

I'm going for my L's today, and here in NSW if you fail the MOST test (to get your P's) they don't charge you to re do the test any time within 14 days.

Easily go for your fulls man. Re-doing your L's will be a pain in the arse and cost even more

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 09:40 am, by: David Vaughan (Davidv)

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Dont be stupid... not everyone that rides a motor bike dies... As long as you drive sensibly and look out for other drivers around you, you will be ok

It is true that not everyone who rides a motor bike dies [on the bike]. It is true that riding carefully reduces your risk. It is also true that your chances of dying are far greater than in a car, both because the intrinsic risk of a crash is higher and because you are more likely to die when you do. It would be stupid to imagine otherwise.

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 10:52 am, by: Brian Coignet (Brizal)

Dan McColl wrote on Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 10:26 pm:

Wow, such a pessimistic view!!! Everyone, really??? Is your theory based on your believe that ALL bike riders will have a massive crash???
Because I know several people who have been riding all their life and are still alive!! Or is it based on the way people drive cars?? Because of their driving style, then a massive accident which is to cause certain death is inevitable?
Furthermore are you basing this believe on the style of driving which you happen to witness daily, such as your own?
I will admit that there is greater danger when riding bikes, but this is similar to when people first started driving. I mean there was once a time when no cars were driven and I can assure you that there was less accidents (if there was it usually wouldn't be fatal).
However we jump to 2010 and an overwhelming amount of people drive, even tho there is the risk of death!
So as far as certain death is concerned, I dismiss your comment as it seems to have no basis. At the end of day we will all die, not sure when, or how, so while your alive you should enjoy it, no use running scared.

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 06:43 pm, by: Natasha D'Abreo (Natashad)

It is a very pessimistic view...
Heaps of people dont crash... Anyone can die driving... car, bike... a bike is just easier. Not everyone who rides will die.

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Friday, June 18, 2010 - 08:31 pm, by: Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt)

That's not the point though, you run a greater risk of dying when on a bike.

Let's not be optimistic and give the big green tick either, but rather warn of the dangers.

Me I'd rather be in a car, but if you love bikes then why not.

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Saturday, June 19, 2010 - 12:01 pm, by: Brian Coignet (Brizal)

What do you mean that's not the point?

We never said that you won't die riding a bike, and we acknowledge the fact that there is a greater risk of death while on a bike, as Natasha Stated ("... a bike is just easier").

The point we are trying to convey to people is the simple fact that although there is a chance of dying while riding a bike, it is not a certain death, moreover, the presence of death is in everything we do, including driving.

One thing we try to stress is the fact that some people believe that riding a bike is certain death, and it's a mentality like that which not only hampers the riding experience, but is also an ignorant point of view.

Ultimately, the decision to ride a bike or not lies in the individual hands. Tho the risk of death whilst riding is undoubtedly higher than when in a car, death is not a certainty and to lead people to believe this reflects on your stupidity

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 07:52 pm, by: Dan McColl (Hoon)

Natasha D'Abreo wrote on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 08:37 am:
Dont be stupid... not everyone that rides a motor bike dies... As long as you drive sensibly and look out for other drivers around you, you will be ok.

Ok, not everyone, but a significant number. The major issue is that the other drivers around you are not looking out for you.

Brian Coignet wrote on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 10:52 am:
Wow, such a pessimistic view!!! Everyone, really??? Is your theory based on your believe that ALL bike riders will have a massive crash???

It's not that the bike riders will crash, it's that they will be crashed into by blind, inconsiderate car drivers that don't look out for bikes.

Brian Coignet wrote on Friday, June 18, 2010 - 10:52 am:
Furthermore are you basing this believe on the style of driving which you happen to witness daily, such as your own?

I'm basing this on he fact that almost everyone I know personally who rides bikes has been hit by a car. Some lived, some didn't.

The big issue is firstly, that most motorists are ignorant to the world and struggle to see other cars, let alone a bike, and secondly, what would likely be a small fender bender in a car is very likely to be serious trauma or death on a bike.

You are more likely to be involved in a crash (read: crashed into) on a bike, and if you are, your injuries are more likely to be much more serious.

Don't get me wrong, I love bikes, but no way in the world would I ride one on a public road with other cars around.

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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 07:01 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

Dan McColl wrote on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 07:52 pm:
I'm basing this on he fact that almost everyone I know personally who rides bikes has been hit by a car. Some lived, some didn't.

Same here.

Dan McColl wrote on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 07:52 pm:
Ok, not everyone, but a significant number. The major issue is that the other drivers around you are not looking out for you.

Thats true too, but often (and this applies to some friends of mine too) the bike rider has been taking silly risks at the time - travelling way too fast in a non-existant lane in rush hour traffic, turning across the flow of traffic because they think they can make it - that kind of thing. Not always, but sometimes.