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Richard Luong
TryHard
Victoria
SC400 V8

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Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:16 pm, by:  Richard Luong (Reggiebangbang) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay just for fun I've been thinking would the Lexus IS-F 5.0 V8 power plant and box fit into a Soarer.

I know it prob would be extremely expensive but who know might come across a front cut??
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.

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Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 05:37 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes it would with the supporting work and custom parts to install it.

I know of a person who is putting a U-R series engine into a MK3 Supra so I don't see why with the work it can't be done into a Soarer.

But these would be hard to come by and very expensive, if you want that sort of power, you are better off buying an LS7 for about $10,000.
Cihan Aday
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JZZ30

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Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 06:30 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mate any engine can be made to fit into nearly anything.

Don't see why you would ever bother with late model toyota engines. It'll never run to its full potential unless the swap is done with a full loom, or a competent aftermarket standalone wire up and tune.

30 grand later and its still just an mk3..
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8

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Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 08:24 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here it is
Upload
Leon Wright
Goo Roo
WA
4WD Hilux

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Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 09:02 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pretty! Looks quite large in comparison to the 1UZ
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
E36 Coupe

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Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 10:16 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

May as well just buy a newer better car if you want a newer better motor.

IMO a Soarer is not worth enough to spend $XX,XXX on for a motor like the IS-F's
Christian Somerville
DieHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8 LTD

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Tuesday, July 13, 2010 - 11:20 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MMM Individual Throttles :-)
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 12:39 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mmm 5.0l v8 producing 420hp which would cost a good part of 50k to set up..or..slap a turbo/supercharger on a built 1uz...set you back 15-20k with 800hp+?
Richard Luong
TryHard
Victoria
SC400 V8

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 01:05 am, by:  Richard Luong (Reggiebangbang) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mmmm as I thought big dollars involved, well to be honest I'm actually going to be coming across with some extra funds so I'm looking at (poor) investment into the Soarer.

Now personally I've done very minor tuning, but would it be crazy of me (me thinks it is already) to expect
285-300kw@w obviously leaning towards a supercharger (gotta love that sound)

So at the moment the game plan is to get the interior redone first, bare metal respray (not sure of the colour maybe stick to peal white) and a nice set of 19". So far I'm estimating that to set me back 8-10k.

So questions to the goo roos how much would I be looking at engine dollar wise to get that amount of power to the wheels? Or should I just save and buy a fpv lol
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 02:37 am, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just like to say if you got the cash, do whatever you like as it's your car, no matter what others think. I mean if you really are serious on making a project out of it, then why not?

Personally I wouldn't, but that's just me.
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
E36 Coupe

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 05:22 am, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Richard Luong wrote on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 01:05 am:

Or should I just save and buy a fpv lol




Better value.

You could spend 50k on a Soarer, and only get 1/3 back on resale if you're lucky.

Or Import a V12 century and do a motor-swap, 1UZ into that, V12 into your Soarer. That would still cost a bit though..
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 06:15 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, its definitely not an "investment" in anything other than personal satisfaction. If you've got the money to waste and won't miss it, go for it - just remember you won't ever get much of it back when its time to sell and move on.
Steven Anderson
TryHard
NSW
UZZ31 Manual

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 09:32 am, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

230-240rwkw is easily achiveable with a blower. Entirely not worth the effort unfortunatley.
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 09:54 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Steven Anderson wrote on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 09:32 am:

230-240rwkw is easily achiveable with a blower. Entirely not worth the effort unfortunatley.




Entirely worth the effort!!!
Richard Luong
TryHard
Victoria
SC400 V8

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 03:43 pm, by:  Richard Luong (Reggiebangbang) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lol mike I checked out the V12. You mentioned mate that would sound absolutely wild, found a clip on YouTube with some top secret supra running that engine. A V12 Soarer, only if it didn't weigh a mega load it'll give the lower end exotics a run for their money.

Cheers for your thoughts fellas, I'll have to sit down and think this through but a super charged v8 sounds like a possible pipeline plan.
Cihan Aday
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JZZ30

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 04:23 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Crazy looking engine in that pic...
James Buchan
DieHard
Vic
V8

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 04:59 pm, by:  James Buchan (Jrbuch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard, if you're going to S/C you may as well get a set of Neils headers. Trust me, they sound mad!
Steven Anderson
TryHard
NSW
UZZ31 Manual

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 05:03 pm, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Damian Ware wrote on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 09:54 am:

Entirely worth the effort!!!




Heh, I meant translpanting a 5L engine for 3 times the price of a blower was not worth the effort, letting Neil loose on an engine is entirely worth it :-)
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 05:25 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you heard the ISF V10 AT 9000 RPM!!its a detuned Toyota f1 ENGINE
Ryan Rankovic
Goo Roo
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 05:40 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Richard Luong wrote on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 03:43 pm:

A V12 Soarer, only if it didn't weigh a mega load it'll give the lower end exotics a run for their money.




Hardly. That V12 wasn't built for balls out power.

The one in the top secret Supra was, but as standard, it wouldn't even crack 200rwkw

The 1GZ-FE is a 5.0 L (4996 cc) V12 48-valve DOHC engine with variable valve timing (VVT-i). Bore is 81 mm and stroke is 80.8 mm, with a compression ratio of 10.5:1. Output is 280 hp (210 kW) at 5200 rpm with 355 lb·ft (481 N·m) of torque at 4000 rpm. The fuel system is a EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection) system controlled by two ECUs (one for each bank of cylinders).
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
E36 Coupe

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 12:48 am, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Theres a dyno of a V12 Century on YT.

182rwkw apparently.

Pretty good I thought, would go well in a Soarer. I am sure there is more to be had out of them. Though, low 200's if kept NA. My mechanic had a look at one he imported, heads ports are more narrow than the 1uzfes ones!
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 07:04 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dave Rose wrote on Wednesday, July 14, 2010 - 05:25 pm:

Have you heard the ISF V10 AT 9000 RPM!!its a detuned Toyota f1 ENGINE




The IS-F engine is a 2UR-GSE V8, not a V10, and it produces maximum power at around 6,600RPM - not sure what the redline would be, but I doubt it would get to 9000. Maybe you were thinking of the LFA engine?

Current Formula 1 cars use small V8's - 2.4 litres currently. They produce almost no power at all under 5000 RPM, and typically produce maximum power at around 15,000-20,000RPM.
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
uzz31 v8

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Thursday, July 15, 2010 - 11:18 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah i was..FAIL..another senior moment. the pic i put up was the LFA V10 did no one count the ex pipes.
I just loved the sound as it hits 9000 RPM.

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