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Anthony Matthews
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 11:37 am, by:  Anthony Matthews (Gajet) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just curious as to whether anyone here has one of these heinous stickers on their car...or would consider putting one on?
Brett Cutts
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 12:12 pm, by:  Brett Cutts (Boof390) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't have one and my father and his family were imports in the 60's LEGALLY.
I would quite happily wear a use a boat for target practice sticker if I could find one though.
I have no problem with people coming in through legal means but the cost to the tax payer of the boat people and some of the dregs that are coming in with them really get under my skin.
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 02:12 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ by legal means im not bothered, but illegally that gets under my skin as well, i have a family member who works for centrelink and they constantly get people who have no records of travelling to this country and DEMAND they get given a house and demand they get given money and abuse the staff when they say no because they fail to prove either citizenship or work visa of any kind..
Anthony Matthews
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 03:39 pm, by:  Anthony Matthews (Gajet) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

See here's the rub. Not everyone has access to LEGAL migration channels. Do you think you can just wander in to the Afganistan passport bureau and ask for migration forms?

As for Centrelink LOTS of people go in there and demand all sorts of things. That's a HUMAN problem, not a RACE problem.

Just remember, if you're a white Australian whose ancestors came here in the 1800s, you're descended from a boat person too!
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 03:57 pm, by:  Joshua Rao (Soaren1) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:26 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Anthony Matthews wrote on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 03:39 pm:

See here's the rub. Not everyone has access to LEGAL migration channels. Do you think you can just wander in to the Afganistan passport bureau and ask for migration forms?



But they usually have SOME sort of identification..
A lot of these illegal boat people, discard their ID papers, and refuse to identify themselves truthfully.. So what are they hiding?
Who's going to take the blame when they rape/kill/murder? And yes it has already happened..
Brett Cutts
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:36 pm, by:  Brett Cutts (Boof390) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah like a load of ex tamil tigers ex king crud managed to get us stuck with
Don Bagnall
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:49 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm glad I live in NZ.............We don't (as a general rule), have to put up with lower socio-economic SCUM from some fourth world POS! country.

Generally speaking, the worst we have to put up with is "Coconuts" who've out stayed their welcome, (which, in MY opinion, should NEVER have been offered in the first place!.

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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:56 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i think we need to look at the bums already in this country who are getting paid by centrelink to sit on their arses all day!

Anthony: doesnt matter. if you cant do it legally you shouldnt do it. its not our responsibility to look after people from war torn countries
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 05:18 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ali Saeed wrote on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:56 pm:

i think we need to look at the bums already in this country who are getting paid by centrelink to sit on their arses all day!



Sadly Ali, NO government will EVER do it (ours or yours)............Too hard basket, I'm afraid
James Johnson
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 05:22 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jimbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Don Bagnall wrote on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 04:49 pm:

I'm glad I live in NZ.............We don't (as a general rule), have to put up with lower socio-economic SCUM from some fourth world POS! country.

Generally speaking, the worst we have to put up with is "Coconuts" who've out stayed their welcome, (which, in MY opinion, should NEVER have been offered in the first place!.




Where in NZ do you live Don, obviously not Auckland. I am a security guard that travels around out on the road and I carry a police scanner with me, just a lot of things happen around me and the police are about 10-15mins away. 8 out of 10 times you hear that the cops have to deal with "coconuts" and all the other ethnic blends in this city, only every now and again do you hear about a "white" New Zealander doing wrong but as it is they would have gang connections or a list of convictions longer that their forearms.

I remember last Sunday while I was working, some Somalians broke into a house and raided it then 4 hours later they tried stealing some one's muscle car parked in their garage and the owner came home, could hear them in the garage and called the cops then they bolted as the cops were on their way. What was even worse was that they were trying to steal that car just 2 streets over from my house where my parents and younger brother live. Honestly you don't hear about this stuff as the media in this country are too up them selfs and all you have to do is watch the 6pm news to discover this as the stories they report on most of the time we don't even care about.

I am not trying to be a racist but simply stating a fact and don't get me wrong I work with a few "coconuts" and they are great people that are real hard workers, pity the rest of their kind let them down but hey, no one is perfect I guess.
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 06:10 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


James Johnson wrote on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 05:22 pm:

Where in NZ do you live Don



New Plymouth James.

I was born and raised in Auckland, and only left there in 1994.

I must confess that down here, we don't get a lot of immigrants (black, white or yellow), which, I'm very happy about.

I should say, at this juncture, that I'm not racially predudiced, BUT, I do prefer to live in a "White" neigbourhood...............I'm NOT sorry if this offends, as I would rather be straight up than waffle about how I "Deeply care for ALL people"...............I DON'T!.

Ron Bassett
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 06:18 pm, by:  Ron Bassett (Ron) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don, what is YOUR definition of 'rednecks' on a forum?
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 06:34 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

People using false names?
Ty Mackay
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 06:39 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i must admit this thread is just waiting to fuel some of these fires...

ali is right in a way, we do need to also look at the slack ones who sit on there asses and do nothing about contributing to this country and expecting favours and money in return..

the illegal people here expect the same thing, they refuse to show id and who they are, but still demand to be put in houses and DEMAND to be given handouts...

there just as bad, when they come here and refuse to show id and visa's and expect money and housing it sounds more like they are exploiting the country than embracing it, im not trolling for a fight, nor am i picking one, im just telling each of you my own opinion on the matter as that's what we are here for. nor am i racist or anything of the kind, i know alot of great ethnic people, who are here LEGALLY and work for there money, not here illegally and expect handouts
Ty Mackay
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 06:43 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

but what makes it worse is when they are told no we cannot help as they refuse to cooperate they get angry and start abusing people, one of my family members who works for centrelink has been abused and physically assaulted by illegal immigrants a thousand times more than the ones who refuse to work... this also adds to my views, especially when my family member is doing there job and is assaulted because these people refuse to agree to the terms and ruling, but still expect money, im sorry but in ways like this i see it as exploiting our country not embracing it.
Anthony Matthews
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 07:16 pm, by:  Anthony Matthews (Gajet) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey. I'm not saying I'm not prejudiced...I'm pretty dark on Daewoo drivers
James Johnson
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 07:42 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jimbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Don Bagnall wrote on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 06:10 pm:

New Plymouth James.

I was born and raised in Auckland, and only left there in 1994.

I must confess that down here, we don't get a lot of immigrants (black, white or yellow), which, I'm very happy about.

I should say, at this juncture, that I'm not racially predudiced, BUT, I do prefer to live in a "White" neigbourhood...............I'm NOT sorry if this offends, as I would rather be straight up than waffle about how I "Deeply care for ALL people"...............I DON'T!.




Back in 94 things were ok. To be honest I agree with what you are saying.

I lived in Huntly for 2 years and Tokoroa for 1 (you aussie guys might need to use the google maps for those places) and all it was there was the white people and the Maori's but when I had time off work I would come back to Auckland. Not 5 mins after the motorway started you would spot some of these other ethnic types.

My old man was a cop for 14 years and before that he was a traffic cop for 12. He was saying just 4 hours ago he remembers going to a call out for a house fire as some Somalian family tried to cook their dinner in the living room with a fire they started on the floor in the middle of the room. I get the feeling NZ is a push over compared to Aus as the govt just welcome's them in with arms wide open and the thing is they don't know any thing about the country or the "western style" of living.

This recent debacle with Aus turning away these boats with illegal immigrants, I say good on you Aus some one should stand up but the only thing is now we are going to get them. We need to do what you Australians are doing as this country would be a lot better with out them for obvious reasons.
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Friday, July 23, 2010 - 10:43 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

'illegals' should be in many cases restated as refugees. there are many international treaties regarding the rights of refugees. the number of refugees entering australia is absolutely miniscule in comparison to general migration principle ie if you got money, you can come. if we are going to get all high and mighty about who comes and why, id rather a boat load of people in desperate need than a single hong kong business man (and his family) looking to expand his empire.
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Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 01:10 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

if that guy from HK brings in foreign income why the hell not.
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Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 07:55 am, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeez.. there's a whole heap of racist plop in this thread. You can't turn the boats away, you can't line them up with MG42s on the beach. What you can do is sit back a minute and think to yourself:

"Before I throw stones of judgement, how about I walk a mile in their shoes?"
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Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 01:56 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

by my understanding from what i've heard, according to regulations the government has to accept a certain number of boat people. this is what i've heard so by no means could this be accurate but yeah...
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Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 02:06 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Anthony Matthews wrote on Friday, July 23, 2010 - 07:16 pm:

I'm pretty dark on Daewoo drivers




Hahaha
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Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 05:41 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't see it much as racist, no group is being singled out. It's more about how people come here rather than who comes here - mostly.
James Johnson
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Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 05:56 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jimbo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Peter Nitschke wrote on Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 05:41 pm:

I don't see it much as racist, no group is being singled out. It's more about how people come here rather than who comes here - mostly.




True there Pen but for example a work mate of mine is still waiting for residency and is a top bloke, real hard worker, military experience etc yet these boat people get residency quicker.
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Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 06:54 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My parents were boat people. I don't mean to generalize but some white folk have no idea on what one needs to endure and suffer to get here. Look at the bums wasting away. You should be privileged to be living in a beautiful country like this. I'd be happy to trade dead beat bogans for boat people who generally want a better life for their kids.

My parents have been here for close to 30years now. I will be honest say mum speaks little English. But I don't care. I still
Love her. I don't expect people to understand and I don't care. If you choose to bear that sticker then it's your loss. There's so much you can learn from one another.
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Saturday, July 24, 2010 - 09:53 pm, by:  Adam Chytra (Soarpra) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lets open the borders to everyone - no controls, nothing. While we're at it, lets open Australian waters to illegal fishing vessels and whaling fleets. Free up the airspace too. Let everyone do what they want. FFS.
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Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 09:44 am, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nobody seems to pipe up about abos.
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Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:13 am, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They are a protected species Austen
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Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 10:26 am, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparently they are or in the process of claiming refugee status?
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Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 11:52 am, by:  David Henderson (Hendo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

compulsory work for the dole FTW! maybe something linked in with a trade, so as to give some sort of industry experience.

giving people money for nothing won't help them be learn a work ethic!

“Give a man a fish; you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish; and you have fed him for a lifetime”
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Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 12:00 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Work for the dole IS compulsory.. unless you're abo. You'll get complimentary commission housing which you may trash at your leisure.. then get given another.. GTFO
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Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 01:42 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you dont even need to be abo, walk into centrelink and say your aboriginal and you claim ALL THE BENEFITS as they cant say your not, and yeah, housing,money, free everything, and that is ROOTED!!!
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Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 03:06 pm, by:  Tabby Clinckett (Soarer_gurl) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I moved to brissy from nz (rotorua) 10 years ago now, it pisses me off when I walk into centerlink and they won't give me a cent but then I see people who can't even speak English getting handed payments... WTF , I'm married to an Aussie n my 6 yo son was born here yet I'm not entitled to any sort of payment or help with looking for work. Basicly if I didn't have my hubby I'd be up creek and living back in hole rotorua.
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Sunday, July 25, 2010 - 05:19 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah and where is all this Centrelink money for these troublemakers coming from, taxes that we pay. Imagine just how much money is, for every Fortnight to give Thousands of people $250-$700 (or however high it goes for some people depending on ethnicity).

And as for people demanding Money, that is just not on.

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