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Michael Lucas
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Friday, October 22, 2010 - 11:42 am, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Come someone help me clear this up

Regarding importing a left hand drive;
One friend told me that in Victoria you have to convert any imported LHD to RHD if it is to be your daily drive for vicroads to register it.
Is this true? And is a conversion kit/ process an extremely expensive process?

Another friend told me that you dont have to convert rather you obtain a special permit from the authorities so you can leave the car in the LHD format.
Can you get such permits? And if you can why would anyone want to convert to RHD if it costs x amount of dollars?

If you do have to convert to RHD is there any way around this? Another state perhaps? Anyone know how to go about this?
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Friday, October 22, 2010 - 12:25 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are special permits, I believe they come under club permits/classi permits but the use of the vehicles have extremely tough restricions such as only during daylight hrs only to and from mechanics and club functions.

It is totally impracticle for 99.99% of people.

LHD to RHD conversion can be very expensive. Consider the engine and interior has to be removed, firewall modified potentially completely replace and many cars require custom components to be manufactured such as brake components power steering rack.

Cars need to be engineered and complianced for registation.

Conversion price for Z06 vett was I think around 30k-40k.
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Friday, October 22, 2010 - 01:22 pm, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

goddamnit
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Friday, October 22, 2010 - 04:30 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What were you planning on bringing in.
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Friday, October 22, 2010 - 05:11 pm, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a 2010 shelby gt500 frigging love these cars - they're true beasty
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Friday, October 22, 2010 - 07:29 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its got to do with age of the vehicle too doesn't it?
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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 11:55 am, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeh think it's 30 + years and you can leave as is, but the fact of the matter is, as cool as oldskool big blocks are I don't want a vintage beast. I want a present beast. Bloody cheap as chips here - I'd cover the duty and other taxes on importing no worries if only I didn't have to splurge on a conversion.
Apparently Holden almost had the license to produce right hand drive Camaro's. Wonder if ford aus. could get the mustang...

It's all about Camaro's and Mustang's here in north america. Back home it's commodores and falcons.
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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 01:28 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mike, GT500 are available off the show room floor pre converted to RHD registered, drive away locally.
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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 01:45 pm, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

right... really. so you still have to convert and all that bollocks. how much are they selling for?
what about camaro's? anyone got them?
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Saturday, October 23, 2010 - 05:24 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mike, yes for normal use they must be converted to RHD.

I don't know what they are selling for once they are converted but I know the cost of conversion is considerable. As per the prices above for a Z06 I would think the conversion cost would be similar for a Mustang.

There are a couple of places in Melb selling Mustangs. Perhaps contact them regarding pricing.

http://www.mustangmotorsport.com.au/10/2010_mustang_gt.php

There is one camaro on the road in vic that I am aware off.
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Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 02:37 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i would prefer a camaro over the mustang. how much are corvette zr1s in the US?
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Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 10:00 am, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bout 40 - 50 k i think. Haven't really looked at them that much so dont quote me (thats current model by the way)
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Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 12:14 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

40-50k you are dreaming, ZR1 corvett is well over 100k in the US.

RRP price was I think 112k with (I don't know why in the US sales price is higher than RRP) actual sales prices of over 170k.

The first ZR1 vett that was available in Australia coverted to RHD ready to drive away had a price of $450k. The cost of the car new in the US was 200k USD purchased in 2009.

A guy I know through work has recently returned from the US for a holiday. He was upgraded from the Z06 to ZR1 vett at the start of this year his car was purchased a little later on ie at the start of 2010. His zr1 was 170k.

I would think on the basic math of the cost of other cars that a GT500 would be over 200k drive away.

Second hand mustangs locally are over 100k.

Michael Lucas
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Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 04:22 pm, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha calm down - dont know anything about corvetts. im probs thinking of the chevrolet corvette base model or something
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Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 04:26 pm, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah my bad.
http://www.autotrader.ca/a/CHEVROLET/CORVETTE/COQUITLAM/British+Columbia/5_8462078_CT200410271038177 06/
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Sunday, October 24, 2010 - 05:09 pm, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fully remanufactured Mustangs off the showroom floor or custom built from an Aussie company in the Phillipines
http://www.classicspeedinc.com/index.cmc
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Monday, October 25, 2010 - 10:18 am, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fairly easy guide with corvettes is to triple the price in US$ and you get the approximate amount in AU$.

e.g. you can get a new base model vette for around $150k, you can get a C5 for around 70k, A ZR1 would probably be around $300k now that they are selling at RRP or less.

Conversion costs between makes can vary a fair bit as well. A conversion for a C6 or a new viper would be ~$50k or so, a mustang would be nowhere near that and a used mustang like a nice 04 cobra (4.6L supercharged) would be even less. C5 corvette is ~$37k.

And the last thing you have to remember is that they have or are about to completely arse the import regs for 30+ year old cars, so you can still keep them LHD, but there is all weird about modifications and when they were performed. e.g. stories about a 32 rod having 34 brakes on it and being rejected because they couldnt prove when the mods were done.
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Monday, October 25, 2010 - 12:24 pm, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you are serious about buying a good Mustang, you would be crazy not to check out classic speed

They were given some good reports on the Ford forums

Why buy some clapped out L/H drive clunker from the States and then pay to get it here and then pay through the nose for the conversion and parts in Australia, when the guys in the Phillipines can do all the work at the right price. I think they get some sort of tax dispensation where they are which helps with pricing, and they are Aussie as well
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Monday, October 25, 2010 - 01:10 pm, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah they're nice. But not the current model
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Monday, October 25, 2010 - 03:27 pm, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

current model = mega bucks
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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 08:16 am, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

true *sigh
but i have this awesome plan, wanna hear it? Too bad im telling you anyway; win the lotto... four times
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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 02:19 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i wouldnt be buying a mustang if i won the lotto :s
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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 04:01 pm, by:  Michael Lucas (Mickoin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and if you won four lotto's? like i plan too
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Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 05:59 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

something european and a big mansion by the ocean/river
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Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 08:46 am, by:  Gary Redman (Gary) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a mate that imports cars from the states, but mainly for conversion to hotrods, and he said driving an earlier model Mustang is just like driving an old XW Falcon and not very inspiring eg poor handling, ride and brakes.

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