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Glen Muller
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 08:10 am, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have the dreaded red ring of death going on, and I located a tutorial online which helped me dismantle my 360 safely and diagnose the problem. The thermal grease under the heatsinks has set rock hard like Araldite, so it's time to get rid of it and apply new grease.

Has anyone done this before? I haven't... but you gotta start somewhere! Just wondering if there are any tips or tricks I should be aware of. Thanks!
Ty Mackay
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 09:02 am, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

not just easier to have someone do it? surely it wont be to expensive?
Austen Menze
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 10:16 am, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've done a lot of this, but never on a 360, although I don't see how it can be any different.

Scrape the hard stuff off with a PLASTIC knife or something, clean the rest off with acetone on both the CPU and the heatsink. Keep cleaning until nothing comes off.

Apply a THIN film of the new thermal compound and throw the heatsink back on. The silver coloured compounds are a lot better than the white silicon based stuff.

A lot of people I've seen pile the thermal compound on thinking more is better, it's certainly not.

Q6600 at 4.2ghz, can't be wrong! :-)
Aaron Casey
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 10:25 am, by:  Aaron Casey (Blownminiturbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and use gloves.
or i bet there is a nice shiny ps3 with your name on it haha :-) and gt5 coming soon
Austen Menze
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 10:40 am, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If only they would release GT5 for PC :-(
Aiden Cheese
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 12:12 pm, by:  Aiden Cheese (Chillpen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did it - but really most of the times its actually dry solder joints that crack under the heat/cooling because the grease is stuffed.

Bad luck homie - i've got one in pieces in a box somewhere.
Austen Menze
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 12:38 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Do they use a compound on these from the factory or something? The stuff really shouldnt go hard at all.
Warren Moore
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 04:24 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

getting an xbox repair shop to do it would cost $120 odd dollars, so doing it yourself is the way to go.

any thermal paste would work fine, i recommend arctic silver 5 or arctic mx-4.

the best way to do it is to apply to cpu, and not heatsink. i apply 4 or 5 blobs of paste on the cpu and spread it out with a small piece of cardboard. i leave about a 1mm gap on all sides so none of the paste seeps out the sides after application. make the layer thin, but thick enough for it to spread out all fill the 1mm gap but not seep out the sides.

my xbox has also just shat itself, could you please link this guide. does re applying thermal paste fix a rrod?
Wess McManus
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 06:59 pm, by:  Wess McManus (Bar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why not just contact xbox customer service.
This happened to my xbox, sent away, postage paid for by them .
They're aware of the fault and weren't concerned as to whether still under warranty.
Was gone for a month though.
Aaron Mead
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 07:50 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Use RainX anti-fog as a cleaner to remove the thermal compound (not thernmal grease, its a bit different).

Squirt a few drops on it and let it sit for a few minutes. Then attack it with a tissue.

Apply the new thermal compund (Arctic Freeze/Ceramic/Silver etc...) using an old bankcard to get it covered evenly. Or wrap your finger in gladwrap and smear it around.
Go nuts, it doesnt hurt. Its not like trying to line up the internal cores of multi core CPU. Just pray and spray. Wear gloves.
Mike Beck
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Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 08:44 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Aaron Mead wrote on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 07:50 pm:

Use RainX anti-fog as a cleaner to remove the thermal compound (not thernmal grease, its a bit different).




That stuff is just Isopropyl alcohol. :-)
Aaron Mead
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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 08:55 am, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hands up whos got RainX at home?

Now hands up whos got Isopropylaadooldle Watchyamcallit?


Thought so.
Leon Wright
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Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:35 am, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I normally use CRC Co Contact Cleaner for cleaning up thermal compound, but that's cause I keep a supply of it (Electronics/PC nerd, so it comes in handy).

These guys do have some quite descriptive guides:
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-Xbox-360-Red-Ring-of-Death-Fix-Kit/3550/1
Warren Moore
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Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 12:04 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when looking at guides, it says you need to replace the thermal pads on the RAM chips, is this compulsory? because on ebay, all the rrod repair kits don't include any thermal pads for the RAM chips..?
Glen Muller
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Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 08:25 am, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Aaron Casey wrote on Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 10:25 am:

i bet there is a nice shiny ps3 with your name on it




Don't you mean an overgrown Blu-ray player with gaming functionality? NEVER!
Glen Muller
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Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 08:27 am, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Aaron Mead wrote on Monday, November 15, 2010 - 08:55 am:

Hands up whos got RainX at home?

Now hands up whos got Isopropylaadooldle Watchyamcallit?


Thought so.




Actually, I have no Rain-X but I have a bottle of isopropyl alcohol in the bathroom. Makes a damn good cheap aftershave!

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