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Ty Mackay
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte

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Monday, September 27, 2010 - 03:11 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

recently went to buy a blow off valve from user onejzkon, all went fine, heard from the user named Kon Hondros :Email <
ahondros@optusnet.com.au>

but when it came to recieving the item it never arrived, i waited two weeks, and asked what was going on, person replied saying the item had been returned!, after countless efforts to find out what was going on in this two weeks i didnt not hear from the user, so once he said it was returned i kindly asked for a refund.

he said he would refund the money the next day, and send the BoV as an apology.

3 - 4 weeks later. i still have not recieved neither the blow off valve i paid for nor the money used to pay for it!..... still trying to get hold of this user.

so now im taking this measure to assure none of you boys have the same problem. so avoid this user and buyer!. thanks all!
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Monday, September 27, 2010 - 04:25 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blah. So many dodgy people out there now ripping off fellow enthusiasts.



Nathan Hlad has practically dropped off the face of the earth it seems, hasn't posted for ages...

sigh.
Ben Lipman
Goo Roo
NT
Soarer TT manual, plus TT track car

Posts: 2393
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Monday, September 27, 2010 - 05:46 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He still owe you a bonnet?
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Monday, September 27, 2010 - 05:52 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep, still owes my brother the bonnet.

haven't heard a word from him for ages, and when we did it was excuse after excuse. He hasn't replied to my last email/Pm

Also recieved an email from a guy a little while ago chasing information about him because he ripped him off on boostcruising, same thing, sent money item not recieved and not replying to PM's.
Ty Mackay
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte

Posts: 1500
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Monday, September 27, 2010 - 08:18 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its bull! im down 120 bucks! its not much and i wont miss it, but its the principal you dont do that $hit
Christian Somerville
DieHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8 LTD

Posts: 957
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Monday, September 27, 2010 - 08:50 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Inconsiderate selfish idiots!
Warren Moore
DieHard
Victoria
JZZ31 N/A

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Monday, September 27, 2010 - 09:52 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi guys i have some gold chains for sale, if interested pm me and i will provide you with my details. kthanks
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Monday, September 27, 2010 - 10:27 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're hilarious warren.
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 12:27 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that sucks Ty. i cant believe you still havent got that bonnet Matt.
Gary Poloskei
DieHard
A.C.T
Soarer JZZ30 GT-TL

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 08:47 am, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I try not to buy second hand, usually you get ripped, don't get the part. or its just plain rubbish.
but usually its just Rubbish.

Genuine Toyota all the way!
My local Toyota dealer is cheaper than Amayama and other online stores anyway. so why would i?

Always check Toyota first. even before buying second hand because sometimes you would be surprised.
Narvey Vilaythong
TryHard
SA
soarer tt and 3T-GTE corona liftback

Posts: 342
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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 09:17 am, by:  Narvey Vilaythong (El_pablo) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

toyota wanted $3330 for a 97 bumper and thats not landed... even showed me on the comp screen, then went to another one and they wanted 600 but there was none in aus
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 04:40 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Gary Poloskei wrote on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 08:47 am:

Genuine Toyota all the way!



You can't buy Aftermarket / performance parts from toyota.. And sadly theres not much of a backing for soarer's in australia so alot of things need to be brought from japland. So its alot cheaper to buy things second hand then it is to spend twice the ammount for it new AND then pay for it to get shipped.
Ty Mackay
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 05:07 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Gary Poloskei wrote on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 08:47 am:

Always check Toyota first. even before buying second hand because sometimes you would be surprised.




it was for a HKS BoV mate, dont think toyota made them factory LOL!
Ty Mackay
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 05:08 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh it was from a fellow member here which made it worse.
Chris Lock
DieHard
sa
V8 Limited

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 07:02 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's why i always try to buy local, and go pick it up and pay for it on the spot.. It would be nice to be able to trust everyone here, but unfortunately we can't.
If i am buying interstate, i try to look at their history etc and see what they're like..
Maybe we could have a 'Trusted seller/buyer' area that only Pen can put people into?
Gary Poloskei
DieHard
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Soarer JZZ30 GT-TL

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Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 07:42 pm, by:  Gary Poloskei (Mikrucio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

good idea chris!
Tim Ross
Goo Roo
Qld
1J + GT35-82R

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 12:03 pm, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its been mentioned before Chris,

Unfortunately the impression I get from Pete is that he is very resistant to any form of change on this site, irrespective of how it may benefit its members
Jeff Bedsor
DieHard
QLD
TT

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 02:34 pm, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or it could be that if he acknowledges that a particular person is trustworthy by adding them to a list it might leave him open to litigation if they rip someone off.
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 02:39 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats not how it works jeff.

On plenty of other forums im on, theres a section where you can post your feedback about how well it went with a seller or buyer.

So say a guy called "Nathan Hlad" Rips someone off. YOu post in that section letting people know you've paid for the item, but it has yet to be recieved, and they aren't asnwering emails or txt's, making up bullshit to bide time, etc.

Now say Mr. Hlad is looking to sell something else in the future, a buyer ALMOST goes to deposit money, but wait, maybe i should check out his previous feedback? I wonder if hes trustworthy?
Buyer comes across said thread, and saves himself a few hundred dollars he'll never get back.
Anthony Matthews
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GT Limited V8

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Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 09:12 pm, by:  Anthony Matthews (Gajet) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matt Sartori wrote on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 02:39 pm:

Now say Mr. Hlad is looking to sell something else in the future, a buyer ALMOST goes to deposit money, but wait, maybe i should check out his previous feedback?




Sounds like Ebay. There are dodgy buyers as well as sellers though.
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 01:20 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Tim Ross wrote on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 12:03 pm:

Unfortunately the impression I get from Pete is that he is very resistant to any form of change on this site, irrespective of how it may benefit its members


That isn't correct.

I am busy, so making changes isn't a high priority, but more so I really don't want the responsibility of having to make posts about people being OK or not. It's a legal minefield if nothing else.

What is someone mails me and says that you let him down?

What if you then mail me and say he caused the problem?

Who am I to believe and either or both of you could well feel hard done by which ever way I decided to write about it.

It's easy enough for anyone to start a thread that could be continually added to either about appreciation or being ripped off.

I happily make the forum available, and with the mods help, the forum is managed to keep it as a nice place to be.

It's up to you guys to make the best use of it.

:-)
Boris Siljanoski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
LS400 + Soarer.

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 04:03 am, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It sucks to be ripped off, i've been in a similar situation recently which has been resolved.

Any way to track this Nathan down?
Jeff Bedsor
DieHard
QLD
TT

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 07:51 am, by:  Jeff Bedsor (Jeff_bedsor) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Google -
http://www.facebook.com/people/Nathan-Hlad/100001284590202#!/profile.php?id=100001284590202

Brother? in Cessnock.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001284590202#!/profile.php?id=1495422511&v=info
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 11:44 am, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter, its not a "legal minefield" if you let the community to decide who is dodgy and who isn't.

A simple section next to the For Sale area where you can put feedback about how a sale went would be perfectly fine. Nearly every other car enthusiast forum out there has it.
Trent Linnell
TryHard
Victoria
V8

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 06:59 pm, by:  Trent Linnell (Tlinnell) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ty, Did you use Paypal??

I have had this happen a few times and have had my money refunded on all occasions.
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Friday, October 01, 2010 - 08:32 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matt Sartori wrote on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 11:44 am:

Peter, its not a "legal minefield" if you let the community to decide who is dodgy and who isn't.


It is if he starts to vouch for people.
Austen Menze
Goo Roo
WA
GT-TL

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Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 09:46 am, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That sucks mate I know how it feels. I've never been ripped on this site though. I only ever buy things off active posters here.

Should have bought it brand new Ty you ducks arse haha!
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 03:10 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Callum Finch wrote on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 08:32 am:

It is if he starts to vouch for people.



But the SC community is doing it...not him...
James Wilson
TryHard
sa
TT

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Friday, October 08, 2010 - 02:32 pm, by:  James Wilson (Ser493) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By having the thread that's encouragement enough. People will sue over a lost sock these days.
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Friday, October 08, 2010 - 04:24 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Then i guess all the other forum owners out there, and ebay, are just waiting to get sued.



I can understand if you're slandering a business, but saying "xxx did not send his item and is not answering my PM's" ...surely thats not a case to sue someone for?
Otherwise everyone would be sueing everyone for "He said im a xxxx" or "xxx said i did xxxx when its a lie"
Sebastian Grant
Goo Roo
nsw
soarer TT

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Friday, October 08, 2010 - 04:41 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you're not happy with the system Matt, don't use it. I think Peter has done enough for the soarer community as it is.
James Wilson
TryHard
sa
TT

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Friday, October 08, 2010 - 04:46 pm, by:  James Wilson (Ser493) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

3rd party information on charachter...its called slander. Its got lawsuit written all over it. But go ahead if you want.
Matt Sartori
DieHard
Western Australia
Rx7

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Friday, October 08, 2010 - 05:15 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sigh
Austen Menze
Goo Roo
WA
GT-TL

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Friday, October 08, 2010 - 06:59 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Austen Menze wrote on Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 09:46 am:

I've never been ripped on this site though.




Scratch that, I have once. Not Peter's or the forums fault. Sh*t happens.
Ty Mackay
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT 1jz-gte

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Friday, October 08, 2010 - 08:07 pm, by:  Ty Mackay (Duo89) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

stfu austen haha! i did end up buying a brand one, from driftmotion sounds amazing! haha!

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