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Warren Moore
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Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 11:22 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just wondering if anyone has seen any of the zeitgeists? a mate told me about it recently and i watched their newest one "moving forward". in moving forward it really opened my eyes to society and how we live as humans today.

here is the moving forward trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYLLFpNn4lM

here if the full length feature:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
Justin Camilleri
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Friday, March 04, 2011 - 12:19 am, by:  Justin Camilleri (Just) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, a good friend at work did tell me about the Venus Project, then later eventuated a discussion about the Zeitgeist Movement. I have tiredly watched Moving Forward, the first 30 minutes didn't sink in. However, the rest of the movie sure was eye opening. I was astounded that this really can be done! We have the technology, why not do it? This present way of life people are forced upon to live is quite pathetic. Having to work is such a burden. I never knew we had 3D printing today, unreal!
Tim Ross
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Friday, March 04, 2011 - 03:18 am, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Always been a fan of the zeitgeist movies, but that one was the most chilling...
Matthew Sharpe
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Friday, March 04, 2011 - 07:01 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Isn't this just another form of socialism? I'm afraid that doesn't work either... sure capitalism is rooted because of human greed, but socialism doesn't work because it removes incentives and promotes anger in those who are expected to bare the burden of social dead wood.

The only real solution is strong leadership able to implement population control and make the many other tough decisions required without worrying about their careers - tough to achieve.

Have to say that I have a horrible feeling these people have a hidden agenda. Using clips from famous scientists out of context like that - well Carl Sagan would have agreed with the need for change, but not perhaps the mechanism proposed here.

As for allowing machines to make decisions - well we are a long, long way from having anything like that kind of technology - when/if we do, it'll pretty much be singularity time anyway. Game over humanity.
Tim Ross
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Friday, March 04, 2011 - 09:45 am, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I more watch it for the points being made about the way things currently are... their solutions... well, those I take with a grain of salt
Warren Moore
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Friday, March 04, 2011 - 10:22 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Tim Ross wrote on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 09:45 am:

I more watch it for the points being made about the way things currently are... their solutions... well, those I take with a grain of salt


Matt Sartori
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Friday, March 04, 2011 - 01:23 pm, by:  Matt Sartori (Klutch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These acid fried hippies need to stop making these terrible "Documentaries"
Aaron Mead
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Friday, March 04, 2011 - 08:57 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah if your eyes are 'opened' after watching this crap then you are a f*cking idiot. I did watch the whole thing in the hope of finding something worthy of further thought, but the misquotes, inaccuracies and failure to cite references other than 'our own research' makes the 'documentary' a fictional rant at best.

That said I often refer people who ask retarded questions to 'docos' such as these as it avoids a long winded negative discussion. Try it on that fruity idiot at work who had a sheltered upbringing at a good school, or on that annoying know it all relative. It'll get em off your back until they come back all enlightened and sh1t. Then you can tear em to bits about how retreaded they are.
Ali Saeed
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WA
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Friday, March 04, 2011 - 09:08 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

watch the inside job, its pretty good

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