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Mike Triggs
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 Monday, November 07, 2011 - 12:00 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Matthew Sharpe wrote on Monday, November 07, 2011 - 11:30 am:

That was my plan - I'm not too bright, so I figured to go for something I had some natural talent for, and that would stand me a chance of earning good money and not drive me totally insane.



Nothing wrong with that- IT and software development is a huge field. I share your interest in almost everything (but not including IT or hardly anything to do with computers, I've just completed a unit of Forensic Science and the PC Forensics part was horrible:-)).
Matthew Sharpe
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 Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 06:14 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
PC Forensics would be pretty specialised I would think. Forensics at least gives you something to talk about that lots of people are interested in!

I ended up becoming heavily involved in logistics and accounting software - couldn't get much more boring to most people I guess, but it throws up unique challenges from time to time that are satisfying to solve. I do a fair bit of systems integration work between various Unix/Windows based software too, which I find a bit more interesting - but yeah, zero interesting work stories at parties. Keeps the family fed though.
Tim Harrigan
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 Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 08:22 am, by:  Tim Harrigan (Timmyeeee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Laugh out ...... loud!
Mike Triggs
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 Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 10:35 am, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Matthew Sharpe wrote on Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 06:14 am:

PC Forensics would be pretty specialised I would think. Forensics at least gives you something to talk about that lots of people are interested in!



Indeed, it was fascinating, although they left my major area of interest out (firearms forensics and ballistics), I gather because there was nobody qualified/available to teach it. I learned that forensic technicians can collect and use a sample of cells from the skin of only 18 cells! You'd leave that many behind on a phone or a door handle. It crossed over a bit with my first semester unit which was the archaeology of human remains- mass burials etc. This is all for interest- my day job is as a technical officer (meteorology) and has been thus for nearly 40 years.
Mike Triggs
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 Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 01:09 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Getting back to Mr Muller's posts about possessive apostrophes, I note one of the Section headers on this very forum:
"Trading Stuff Sell or buy Soarer's and related parts."
Glen Muller
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 Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 04:20 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Facepaw.
Mike Triggs
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 Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 06:55 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Glen Muller wrote on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 04:20 pm:

Facepaw


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 Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 05:11 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Mike Triggs wrote on Tuesday, November 15, 2011 - 01:09 pm:

Getting back to Mr Muller's posts about possessive apostrophes, I note one of the Section headers on this very forum:
"Trading Stuff Sell or buy Soarer's and related parts."

Oi! The parts belong to the Soarer! :-)
Glen Muller
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 Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 08:36 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Mike - this is what I mean:


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Mike Triggs
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 Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 11:35 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Glen Muller wrote on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 - 08:36 pm:

Mike - this is what I mean:


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Aaron Mead
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 Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 09:38 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
<rant:

I think, that the quickest way to improve the level of grammar skills in kids, is to ban all connective media from being brought by students into the school.

No iPhone,Ipod,DS,PSP, or anything with mobile connectivity. This can be achieved with cellular/3g/2.4ghz/GPS jammers which are very affordable. (I have one in my shop, and no longer put up with wankers trying to order and talk at the same time, only to complain that they didnt get what they wanted in the end and it took so long. Not to mention staff that no longer bother turning their phones on :-) )

Also, ensure all school PC/Macs do not carry any 3rd party email service, messenger service etc. Use a school only protocol that allows those outside the portal to only be able to submit/recieve work from teachers/educators.
/rant>

I do support a degree of censorship in any society, yes.
Glen Muller
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 Monday, November 21, 2011 - 06:09 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Mum got one of those jammers and left it in her pencil case (she's an English teacher too). They work brilliantly!
Mike Triggs
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 Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 10:09 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I agree that banning "connective media" from school is a good move (my local high does so) but it won't improve grammar and spelling and overall English expression unless there's a concerted move to improve English teaching in schools. It's not that long ago that all sorts of poor English was tolerated because the "little darlings have to express themselves" and teachers weren't much better (in overall standards). I picked many mistakes in my daughter's school newsletters (admittedly, most likely not prepared by teachers, but by administrative staff).

When I started university in 1990 I quickly came up against markers whose policy was tough (but usually fair- I spoke to some and they said many students had dreadful standards of English) but their own teaching notes and readers often had spelling and grammatical errors in them. In my most recent History unit, there was an average of about one error every two pages in the $35 reader. Then again, newspapers aren't any better, and even $15-20 novels contain the occasional error, something which was unthinkable 20 years ago.

Getting back to text-speak, I don't see anything wrong with it, it's a form of code, abbreviation, whatever, it has its place, and it has to be taught that that place isn't in schoolwork, quite simple. Overseas English-speakers may have three dialects to learn, their local, their national, and "standard English" if they travel. If people like that can manage it, so can Australian schoolkids. Frankly, I think foreign languages should be encouraged- I did German at school and while its spelling is regular, its grammar is difficult- after three years of German study I found English grammar much easier.
Shane Haverkamp
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 Friday, November 25, 2011 - 05:19 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Mr Muller, when is it right to use numbers instead of letters. I'm talking about using 3 instead of three, for some reason i remember it has to be over five or ten to warrant the use of the actual numerical form.

Thanks

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Mike Triggs
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 Friday, November 25, 2011 - 06:48 pm, by:  Mike Triggs (Mikeandimah) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
In case Glen isn't reading this thread (which he started, and we're still awaiting lessons eagerly:-)) you're correct, in more formal writing, numbers up to ten or twelve in words, thereafter in figures. I did get into trouble this semester in History though- I wrote "15th" as in century and had all of them crossed out in red and the word "fifteenth" or whichever century was being discussed (my essay spanned four) written in by the marker. So it depends on context, and what the piece is being written for.
Glen Muller
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 Tuesday, June 12, 2012 - 05:10 pm, by:  Glen Muller (Doom_and_gloom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Yeah sorry Mike, I forgot about it. I'll get the next instalment happening soon.

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