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Don Bagnall
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 07:13 pm, by:  Don Bagnall Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I won't swear on all the facts here, but it's a good read. :-)

A lesson in acceleration:
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First, some useful info:

One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more
horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.

Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1½
gallons of nitro methane per second; a fully loaded 747
consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being
produced.

A stock Dodge 426 Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough
power to drive the dragster's supercharger.

With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on
overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid
form before ignition.Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic
lock at full throttle.

At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro
methane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame
seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen,
dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is
the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.

Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass.
After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus
the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. Cutting the
fuel flow can only shut down the engine.

If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro
builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with
sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in
pieces or split the block in half.

In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must
accelerate at an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200
mph well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.

Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have
completed reading this sentence.

Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from
light to light!

Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900
revolutions under load.

The redline is actually quite high at 9500 rpm.

The Bottom Line; Assuming all the equipment is paid off,
the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each
run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second. The current Top
Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the
quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed
record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66'
of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).

Putting all of this into perspective:

You are riding the average US$250,000 Honda MotoGP bike. Over
a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready
to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the
advantage of a flying start. You run the RC211V hard up
through the gears and blast across the starting line and past
the dragster at an honest 200 mph (293 ft/sec). The 'tree'
goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster
launches and starts after you.

You keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredibly
brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds
the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the
finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.

Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had
spotted you 200mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted
you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot
long race course.


That, folks, is acceleration.

Cheers

"Baggs"
Justin Hughes
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 07:31 pm, by:  Justin Hughes Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ohhh Yeahhh BABY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reminds me of the time Karl took me round the Island in "The Beast". Soooooo much Acceleration - we hit the exit of turn 12 at 170 kph (as you do)
then Karl puts the foot down and BOOOOM !!! - hello 240 in no time at all. I distinctly remember trying to lift my hand up to the dash at that time, and could barely get it off my knee.
Good Stuff !!!!!!!
Peter Nitschke
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 07:33 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You mean out of your lap? :-)
Justin Hughes
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 07:37 pm, by:  Justin Hughes Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haaahaaaaa - you'd have to ask Karl that !!!!!!!!!!
Peter Nitschke
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 07:48 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He had his hand in your lap?
Don Bagnall
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 07:58 pm, by:  Don Bagnall Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ian Johnston
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 08:14 pm, by:  Ian Johnston Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nothing beats the sound, smell, and ground pounding of a top fuel dragster. Awesome at night.
Those things pump out about 7,500HP on nitro.
Some of that power would be handy in my V8.
Daniel Trivuncevic
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TT

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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 08:37 pm, by:  Daniel Trivuncevic Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

holy crap..
Ian Johnston
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 09:29 pm, by:  Ian Johnston Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just checked on NHRA site. Earlier this year, Tony Schumacher ran 2 runs at 334.57mph, and
336.15mph. Both at under 4.5 seconds.
Thats moving! Those blokes must have large jocks
to fit the other 2 large body parts they must have!
dragan vidic
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soarer tt

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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 09:31 pm, by:  dragan vidic Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nearly as impressive as a stock 1jz
Morgan Cross
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 10:31 pm, by:  Morgan Cross Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have
completed reading this sentence."

Don Bagnall
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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 10:49 pm, by:  Don Bagnall Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Make a cool courier delivery vehicle Eh!.

"Yes Sir, we'll have your parcel there in 3.7 seconds, or there abouts"
Luke Nieuwhof
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Soarer TT

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Friday, July 29, 2005 - 10:53 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I love them thats for sure, I'm a drag racing photographer and journalist so let me assure you getting to stand next to the track or just behind one of these things on full noise is awesome, it's like the concussion of an explosion when they launch except lasting for about a second!

The NHRA keeps trying to slow down the cars, they have to run 85% nitro now and also run less downforce than before. They still keep going quicker though!
David Vaughan
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Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 08:24 am, by:  David Vaughan Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you read aloud.
Antony Borlase
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Monday, August 01, 2005 - 11:57 am, by:  Antony Borlase Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Both Trude's and I have been to the drags once of late, and there is nothing like the pressure change in the air at 400m away when one gets going.

Sort of like hitting your palms over your ears, hard...
Mike Bradberry
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Monday, August 01, 2005 - 09:06 pm, by:  Mike Bradberry Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I seem to remember in the early 70's the boffins said there was no way technology could ever get a drag car past the 7 second barrier and 200mph.
Also a long time prior to that someone said the human mind would not be able to cope with speeds above 60mph.
Paul Newman
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Monday, August 01, 2005 - 09:19 pm, by:  Paul Newman Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Had the chanche to see the jet cars at Calder a few years ago they were MIND BLOWING!! They had to clear the veiwing area behind the staging area cause of the flames!!! Upload TT Eater?
Ian Johnston
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Tuesday, August 02, 2005 - 07:19 am, by:  Ian Johnston Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeh, the jet cars are mean. As the anouncer would say, One flash and your ash.
Ben Socratous
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Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 10:43 pm, by:  Ben Socratous Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mmmmmmmmm, draaaaagsterssssss! I went to A.I.R last year to do some photography for a mates car club when they went out for a drag day. I was allowed to stay on the track for the whole day and had the pleasure(?!?) of standing in between 2 7500hp cars while they were lighting the tyres up. That was an expereince that I won't forget to soon
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 06:43 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An excellent video collection of drag incidents.

A "must watch".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK6meDBhySA
Luke Nieuwhof
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Soarer TT

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 10:47 am, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Watched that the other day, intense!



This is one I took on the weekend.
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
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Thursday, October 26, 2006 - 08:22 am, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think im going to have to start going to events =x

Luke, do you need a media monkey to follow you in to launch area place? >.>
Dragan Vidic
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Friday, October 27, 2006 - 03:45 am, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hkfPA3Kjko&NR

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