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Phil Gibson
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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:22 am, by: Phil Gibson (Sciflyer)

23739,20071123-3102,00.html,http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20071123-3102,00.html

If this is true its one of the most rediculous things ive ever heard.

Using this guy's logic *all* motorsport should be banned...

Daniel Czechowski
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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:25 am, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Here:

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20071123-3102,00.html

Your link is not working Phil :-)

Yeah it's just BS! If it's on private property, how can they tell us it is not allowed. Knee-jerk reaction d|ckheads!!!

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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:30 am, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Hey, I see Luke Nieuwhof has posted his comments under the article

Luke Nieuwhof
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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:06 am, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

Yep saw the link on article.
It's so naive.
Daniel, the issue is that it is a government funded facility but somehow someone has claimed it is increasing drifting on the streets. In reality it looks like just another media beat up where the government does something to look like it is taking action when it reality it does nothing to change the problem.
I mean come on:
Facility allows drifting = legal drifting, still some drifting on streets.
Facility does not allow drifting = no legal drifting, more drifting on streets.
Which one is the worst result?!?!

Daniel Czechowski
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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:26 am, by: Daniel Czechowski (Dan)

Yeah, just proves there are bunch of morons in the government. Like someone over there has said, they might just as well ban V8 supercars and other forms of motorsport because that will encourage people in their falcons and commodores to race on the street... Oh well, happy we don't live in queensland hey Luke

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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 11:36 am, by: Antony Borlase (Borlase)

Look, it's really quite simple.

As all the money being spent on the roads is not going to do anything for the politicols' re-election chances, they would much rather have people seriuoslly injured in accident due to skidding on barely wet roads, so that these injured people can go to hospital and see whta excellent improvements have been done in the system there (i.e. Healthcare)

(how do you type sarcastically?)

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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 12:28 pm, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

This statement in particular showed how little the government knows:
"Queensland Transport does not believe it is a good corporate image to promote illegal activity."
WTF? Why aren't the police cracking down on Queensland Raceway for all those illegal drifters then? Or worse what about all those people doing ridiculous speeds at Willowbank?
Come on, what a stupid thing to say. Dangerous driving on public roads is what is illegal, and the only place you can do that is, hang on, public roads!
There are heaps of examples of this in society. You can be nude in your own bedroom, but not in public, for example. It's all about the situation at the time not the activity itself.
Grrr....

Adam Peterson
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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 12:36 pm, by: Adam Peterson (President)

Well to be honest and i know i may be flamed for my opinion. Im happy for it to be banned. Ive never been a fan of Drifting since day one. Call me synical and short sighted but ive seen the impact this sport has on the younger P plate drivers and pre L platers wanting to get their license just to drift.

I do come from a track racing background and have racing experience so i know the safety precautions already. Yes if its a controlled environment so be it, but that wont stop the uneducated, inexperienced 17y/olds from slamming into a innocent motorists because he thinks drifting is cool.

Antony Borlase
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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 01:01 pm, by: Antony Borlase (Borlase)

The problem is they have banned drifting AND SKID CONTROL!

Without going and killing people by entering a 'skid' on a public road (as you will now have to do) how the flipping heck can people learn how to control skids?

90% of all skids that occur do so on the open road when people hit greesy condition.

The other 10$ are people trying to do it (8% of those in hoonmobiles)

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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 01:25 pm, by: Jeff Wilkins (Calin)

Adam, thats insane. By your own logic all forms of racing should be banned, for that matter all dangerous activities of any kind.

That same inexperienced 17 y/o idolises Greg Murphy, goes out and trys to emulate him on the street. Hits another object while driving in a manner reminiscent of his idol, hes just as dead going in a straight line or sideways.

People of all ages are going to see where their limits and that of their vehicles is. Surely its far better to have somewhere allocated for this to take place, with as many safety precautions as possible.

Take away the venue, the event will still happen, just with a much higher risk of accidents/injury.

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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 01:38 pm, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

Adam Peterson wrote on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 12:36 pm:
Ive never been a fan of Drifting since day one.

Tend to agree - its fun to watch, but doesn't really seem like "motorsport" to me, as basically its cars wasting a lot of power and energy in what is generally not the most efficient way to get around a track in the quickest time. However it does appeal to a lot of people, so fair enough, and I'd say the ban is silly.

Nick Beamish
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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 01:45 pm, by: Nick Beamish (Soarer_drift)

BS, This is so typical of this government to put a stop to anything before really assesing what happens at this facility, nor does he understand the control gained by doing these courses.
Fast and the furious is just a movie and everyone knows that. We all know that this film is so far stretched to get our interests.
Do we hand out gun awarness pamphlets every time a movie comes out with a gun in it or a condom to practice safe sex just because a film has sex in it, no way.
Drifting can be a dangerous sport if not practiced in a safe enviroment, however how are we supposed to practice this safely if we have no where to do so legally.
Japan has so many training facilities its not funny and all we get is a friday prac night once a month and a comp day once a month.
These rules and restrictions on cars are so thoughtless.

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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 01:57 pm, by: Tim Appleton (Timbo)

Sorry Adam, but your argument doesn't stack up if you ask me. As Jeff said, the same kids could try emulating Greg Murphy on the streets and do the same thing.

Using your argument, everything ever done that could be dangerous when performed outside a controlled environment by "Joe Public" should be banned. The list of banned actions that could be included are endless, including every form of motorsport.

I do understand why you've come to that conclusion, but your argument is just a little off.

It's no surprise that the "Porsche Experience" doesn't get a mention, as I'm sure it's quite lucrative for the government - anyone tried to drive a Porsche on a skidpan and NOT drift it???

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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 04:01 pm, by: Adam Peterson (President)

lol I knew my opinion would be scruitinised but thats ok. This is a healthy discussion and there will always be conflicting agendas on this.

It is true that professionals and films have a strong impact upon the youths of todays society regardless of what motorsport it is. I think Lukes statement to the online news bulliton webpage pretty much sums it up very well.

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Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:46 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

I'm not a fan of drifting myself, however i can recognise that it requires a large amount of skill.

I dont think its fair to go so far as to say its not a motorsport though. Motorsport shouldnt be limited purely to races where the fastes driver+car+team combination wins.

Bogus web article wrote on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 04:01 pm:
DRIFTING cars sideways through a high-speed skid _ made popular in the movie Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift _ has been banned at a State Government- owned driver training centre in Brisbane.

What makes me pissed off about the article is that they think drifting was made popular through another ••••••• bs movie.
Whoever says this is a media cash cow is more than 100% in the right!

The end of the world will be the media and the government, in the form of the government banning everything because if they dont terrorists will win, and the media saying "OMG PEOPLE ARE DYING/GETTING FAT/GETTING POOR/GETTING RIPPED OFF BECAUSE OF THIS!"

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Monday, August 14, 2006 - 06:56 am, by: Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt)

Callum Finch wrote on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 10:46 pm:
I dont think its fair to go so far as to say its not a motorsport though. Motorsport shouldnt be limited purely to races where the fastes driver+car+team combination wins.

Yeah, fair enough - and lots of people get a buzz out of watching and participating in it - it just doesn't interest me, I'm far more interested in who's fastest and how they did it.

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Monday, August 14, 2006 - 09:25 pm, by: Callum Finch (Sigeneat)

I concur with that Matthew =P
Drifting is a 'meh' sport in my eyes. But i dont want to stand in the way of other people who like it because it certainly requires alot of skill and sometimes can be quite impressive!

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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 03:28 pm, by: Aaron Mead (Aaron)

Bah, up here the chief minister is gettin a backlash after the subject of The Australian Canonball Run came up. Basically she swore a life that it would be benned. The public is in uproar here, the amount of overseas visitors for the NT would be too good to give up. Big Deal if their was an accident when it was originally held in 1994. . Theres been about 157 deaths on the Stuart Highway since 1994......

I for one, am entering if it gets the go Ahead

Ben Lipman
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Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 07:27 pm, by: Ben Lipman (Ben12a)

Jeff Wilkins wrote on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 01:25 pm:
That same inexperienced 17 y/o idolises Greg Murphy, goes out and trys to emulate him on the street.

What and crash every second time you get in the car, rarely finish where you were aiming for, all in a six year old car because you totalled your brand new one first time you drove it.

Yes I am a frustrated Greg Murphy fan...

My sister lives in London and the same knee jerk lobbyists and vote hungry politicians have removed sport from public schools in some areas because sport encourages competitiveness, which can lead to school yard squabbles.

Have never been a huge fan of drifting, but CAMS recognises it as a legitimate form of motorsport. Done well it is entertaining for the crowds and it provides another way for struggling tracks and motorsport venues to make an income. Without income our venues will disappear.

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Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 07:26 am, by: Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof)

Ben Lipman wrote on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 07:27 pm:
My sister lives in London and the same knee jerk lobbyists and vote hungry politicians have removed sport from public schools in some areas because sport encourages competitiveness, which can lead to school yard squabbles.

That's crazy! Life's competitive, get over it!