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Jovica Galovic
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 12:35 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wish to setup a CCTV system at home approx 2-4 cameras, is there guidelines when it comes to the law in Australia.

I just want to monitor my property with recording occuring only at times when noone is at home.

Reason for this is I feel that someone is staking out our place esp. our cars.

Any help/advice greatly appriciated.


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Sam Schreck
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 12:49 pm, by:  Sam Schreck Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had someone bait my dogs a while back. Nearly killed both of them and I know who did it because I had a DVR setup around my fence perimeter. I spoke to a friend of mine who's within the legal community and was strongly advised against it. Could have been turned against me, caliming I was filming for perverted reasons. So I didn't use what I had...Haven't seen him in a dark ally yet either unfortunately.
If you wish to set up a cctv device to film your front door area/back door area only, I've been informed that's ok as long as you advertise the fact. If you park your car in your own carport or something along those lines and wish to monitor it, I believe that's also ok. The little black dome cameras are popping up everywhere if you look around.
Ben Dowdell
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 01:17 pm, by:  Ben Dowdell Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a set up at home and i live in a group of units. i advised my neighbours of what the system was and invited them to see it in operation. the cameras are visible so people approaching know they are being recorded. the cameras are freely available from jaycar and other outlets so i would suggest that there are few if any legal issues, unless of course you are using the cameras to perve.
On a few occasions when the police have visited (i live near a hotel so we get the occasional yobo) they have viewed the tape and the set up and have said nothing about it. i see it as the same of installing security screens etc as it acts as a deterrent to would be criminals. i know that a lot of new home are also being built with systems in place from basic set ups to elaborate multi camera, zoom, pan & tilt systems. hope this helps
Mark Paddick
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 04:52 pm, by:  Mark Paddick Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You will be fine as long as you DON'T record sound. No advertisement required. If you record sound as well as video then you can be in deep trouble.
Don Bagnall
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:08 pm, by:  Don Bagnall Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yay.....Marks a "Goo Roo".

Sorry off topic
Mark Paddick
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 05:22 pm, by:  Mark Paddick Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jovica Galovic
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 06:44 pm, by:  Jovica Galovic Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sound? dont get , not that i planned on recording sound
Don Bagnall
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 06:50 pm, by:  Don Bagnall Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Goo Roo" (sic), from the Australian slang description of the end result of a "Big Red" amalgamating it's self with the front end of a "Big Mack" doing 120kph somewhere in the Nullabor.

Nullabor: Australian, from the Famous Greek Aboriginal Dimitri Yongalap: Null (as in nothing), and BORING.

That is to say, Dull, Boring, Lifeless (apart from the affore mentioned so called Big Red Kangaroos.

Peter Nitschke
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 06:51 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You on the Big Red again yourself Don? :-)
Don Bagnall
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 07:07 pm, by:  Don Bagnall Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of COURSE, it's Friday nite, which is Upload nite!
Sam Schreck
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 10:00 pm, by:  Sam Schreck Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just be careful. The friend who gave me advise is a magistrate. I think thery're probably quite up to date when it comes to the law.
Mark Paddick
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 10:13 pm, by:  Mark Paddick Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is perfectly alright to record video for surveillance purposes but you MUST have the subjects' permission prior to recording sound.
Surveillance cameras are legal (even recordings), taping telephone conversations is not.
Don't ask me why, it's the law

Many cameras sold as surveillance cameras include a microphone. DO NOT be tempted to use it!
Don Bagnall
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 10:19 pm, by:  Don Bagnall Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting Mark, I suspect that those laws (or similar) apply in NZ as well
Mark Paddick
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Friday, August 19, 2005 - 11:10 pm, by:  Mark Paddick Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's interesting that it only applies to sound (huge pressure from TV news guaranteed that, otherwise thre'd be no piccies with the news).
There have been several cases where hidden cameras have been placed and recordings made (ladies toilets etc). No charges can be brought against the perpetrators because there was no sound recorded.
Greg Nikitiuk
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Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 11:40 am, by:  Greg Nikitiuk Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL Mark....no sound recorded in the toilet...thank god
Morgan Cross
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Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 03:49 pm, by:  Morgan Cross Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Yuck.
Ben Kelly
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Friday, September 02, 2005 - 08:03 pm, by:  Ben Kelly (Ace) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I set up 3 cameras around my house due to my f*&%$ neighbours who are encroaching on my land and the subsequent tensions that have arisen. I had sound and video recording (i placed signs around the place). Legal? who knows are they really going to sue me? What would a court likely order? prob at most that i remove the cameras. Anyway they have proven useful even though the quality is actualy quite hopeless...btw don't buy your equipment from jaycar like i did all the cameras + the quad splitter are now dead and the quality was hopeless to begin with.
Ian Johnston
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Friday, September 02, 2005 - 08:49 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You wouldnt want picture or sound in NZ- It would
shame the sheep!
Avin Luther
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Friday, September 02, 2005 - 09:05 pm, by:  Avin Luther (Lex_luther) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

go to
http://scaleplus.law.gov.au
and start reading.
Start with the privacy Act.

By the way an internet forum of car enthusiasts is not the best place for legal advice.
I have heard some great shi* quoted on here and severly doubt its authenticity. the same reason why i rarely if ever respond to these threads asking for advice except to discourage rumours or schemes.
I have Law degree by the way.

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