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Champesh Sandhu
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V8

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Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 06:52 pm, by:  Champesh Sandhu (Champ) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi guys.....my v8 soarers (uzz31) air suspension has died....and im looking at getting some coilover suspension to replace it as the stock suspension is simply too expensive to fix.

im looking to get the tien super streets from
www.greenline.jp (a japanese online parts company, very cheap) however im not sure whether to get the super streets with or without pillow ball mounts.

one thread ive read on the forums says that its not needed on v8 soarers, however another thread indicate i might be missing some parts when it comes to installing?

if someone could give me an answer to this predicament i would greatly appreciate! thanks guys.
Oliver Whaites
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south australia
soarer gt limited V8, hj kingswood

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Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 06:58 pm, by:  Oliver Whaites (Whaitesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey mate what has happened to your old struts explain what is wrong with them i have a set of coil overs for a v8 soarer that i want to get rid of if you are interested pm me
Jeff Wilkins
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JZZ30 GT-TL

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Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 11:20 pm, by:  Jeff Wilkins (Calin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You do not require pillow ball mounts for the front struts mate.
Murray Shailer
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levin
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Friday, February 23, 2007 - 06:19 am, by:  Murray Shailer (Alleycat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

im just in the process of replacing my air struts with tein type flex and was told i needed the pillow ball mounts for the front
i dont know why but am going to get them just to be on the safe side
everyone i talked to said to get them but it's up to you
Neil Griffiths
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NSW
212Kw @ 8psi MANUAL Super Charged UZZ31 :-)

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Friday, February 23, 2007 - 12:03 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bullshit... Yuck / Horrible / Noisy ride with Pillowballs :-)
Champesh Sandhu
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V8

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Friday, February 23, 2007 - 08:33 pm, by:  Champesh Sandhu (Champ) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok, so i dont need pillowballs for the front....but what about for the rear?

when i buy the coilovers from overseas, they come as a set of 4, with or without pillow mounts.
so if the rear needs them, then i will have to go for the set of 4 with the mounts.

does anyone know a reputable mechanic in melb who wont charge an arm and a leg to fitting in coilovers?
Oliver Whaites
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south australia
soarer gt limited V8, hj kingswood

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Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 12:10 pm, by:  Oliver Whaites (Whaitesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey mate i didn't use pillow mounts in my uzz31 when i did the conversion and it rides fine no noise and do you want to sell two of your struts
Jeff Wilkins
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South Australia
JZZ30 GT-TL

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Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 05:52 pm, by:  Jeff Wilkins (Calin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No Champesh, not for the rear either.

Anybody that says you need them for street applications is talking sh1te.

It sounds like your not sure on exactly what they are (forgive me if I'm wrong), so:

Pillow ball mounts (either with or without camber/caster plates) ensure a much stiffer top strut mount (noisy to, normally). This is handy when setting up suspension for track work as the settings you apply don't deform very much under load, unlike standard rubber tops (you can get varying stiffness rubber bushes of course).

The deformation under street load isn't enough to notice (at least I've never been able to pick it by the seat of my pants).

The only reason I would opt for a pillow ball mount is if I wanted camber/caster adjustment at the strut top, then its mandatory (for a MacPherson strut set up any way).

For our suspension set up on Soarers, meh, Un-necessary.
Adam Sanders
TryHard
NSW
V8

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Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 07:32 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would suggest buying tein comfort sports.

the super streets are the cheap low end coilovers for racing. I just paid $2200 delivered for Tein CS top of the line specially made for luxury cars and can be set softer than stock suspension
Champesh Sandhu
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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 02:00 pm, by:  Champesh Sandhu (Champ) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks heaps everyone for the very helpful information :-)

i think i will go with adam's suggestion and opt for the Tein CS.

Oliver in regards to selling the existing struts, i am all up for this! :-) unfortunately ive got no idea what they would be worth?


also can anyone recommend me a place to get the coilovers fitted in melb? or if no-one knows a place, can someone provide me a rough idea as to how much i can reasonably be expected to pay to get this done? ive had so many dodgy dealings with mechanics in the past, i dont trust any quote they give me anymore.
Oliver Whaites
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soarer gt limited V8, hj kingswood

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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 03:11 pm, by:  Oliver Whaites (Whaitesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Champesh i only want the ones on the left hand side if they both work how does 150 each sound for the struts

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