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Neil Griffiths
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Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 09:05 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dat be der one me hardy.

I knew I was *Bias* towards the correct answer... :-)
Peter Chriss
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Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 06:09 pm, by:  Peter Chriss (Pete_and_the_walrus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neil
i would think that your the best person to ask this question. do you know if it possible to change the way the torsen operates?
the reason i ask is i have dismantled the center. if the spider gears are in one position it seems to lock the diff axels in only one direction( what looks like the forward direction). if i change the position of the spider gears it seems to lock the axel in both directions.
is this possible?
Neil Griffiths
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Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 07:18 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think you will end up with *Diff Bind* if you try to swap em round.(You will break it on the first momentum in the car)

So the answer will be,NO mate :-)
Peter Chriss
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Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 12:32 am, by:  Peter Chriss (Pete_and_the_walrus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks for that mate. it was a good thing i asked you.
Peter Chriss
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Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 12:36 pm, by:  Peter Chriss (Pete_and_the_walrus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry but i have another question.
where can i find an exploded view of the diff center?
Gary Morriss
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Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 01:20 pm, by:  Gary Morriss (Gaza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/3442/14892.html?1126863138
Peter Chriss
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Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 07:02 pm, by:  Peter Chriss (Pete_and_the_walrus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I FIXED IT

thanks for the link Gary but my diff center dose'nt look like the in side. i was told by a friend that it is a two way mechanical so it must be different to the torsen.

i was studying all the wear marks inside the center for most of today and was convinced that it had been dismantled once be for and then assembled wrong.

By the wear marks it looked like the spider gears were put in wrong.

Sorry Neil i had to go against what you said, about changing the position of the spider gears. I was a bit stressed changing them around, i can tell you that.

But it worked it. All fine now


Thanks for all the help
Neil Griffiths
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Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 09:06 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ahh...If its a 2 way..Different kettle of fish..
Peter Chriss
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Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 10:53 pm, by:  Peter Chriss (Pete_and_the_walrus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well i don,t fully trust my friends knowledge on these things but he seemed very confident.

Inside the center it has a set of spider gears like a standard diff, but they are housed in a two part cradle, with a clutch pack on either side of the cradle(the clutch pack looks similar to a motor bike clutch only the friction plates are all metal) , which connect to each drive shaft.

Is this what a two way is?
I would be guessing the torsen is better.
Freeman Tang
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Vic
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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 12:14 am, by:  Freeman Tang (Cobra_man) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sounds like it mate, I had a 2 way in my last TT, which was a nitemare!! constant wheel churps and puts so much stress on the tyres, hubs, sideshaftes, diff, all the mounts, even the tranny. it is for racing only, not for road use. Torsen is the best LSD, best design, min wear and min noise and works like a treat.
Peter Chriss
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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 04:57 pm, by:  Peter Chriss (Pete_and_the_walrus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks Freeman

Now i know wat i got. So far it dosen,t bother me
only wheel churps if i accelerate a little hard
into a corner. other than that its ok ,i'm not that heavy on the pedal.
i will just have to see how it go's.
Freeman Tang
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Vic
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Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 01:03 am, by:  Freeman Tang (Cobra_man) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cool, sounds like urs is a proper LSD not a "NSD"(No Slip Diff) like mine...thanx to that Mr.HandOnCock-rippoff-dodgyBrother! ;) we all know who he is right??
Don Bagnall
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Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 09:05 am, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes
Shane Ilich
TryHard
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TT

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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 11:19 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok guys - i have a bit of a dilemma.

i'm in the middle of a manual conversion atm...using a supra w58 and drive shaft...and i can get the torsen lsd from this setup for roughly 800 bucks.

OR

i can get a separate diff out of an entire supra back end for closer to 500 bucks...but the diff appears to be either a 2-way or 1.5 way lsd...we wont know til we have a proper look at it on the weekend.

of the two, which should i go??

i'm setting up for a serious street daily driver, but do some light track work around wanneroo once a month or two, and a few mc days. a saving of 300 bucks is quite considerable to me, but i dont want something thats a pig to drive on the street.

should i just go with the torsen? i've got some mates who swear by a 1.5 lsd, they're suggesting if the rear-end diff is 1.5 to go with that.

some help here would be much appreciated
Peter Chriss
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vic
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 05:58 pm, by:  Peter Chriss (Pete_and_the_walrus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi Shane

as you would probably have read i just put a 2 way in my soarer. i cant give you any feed back on the torsen but so far im happy with the 2 way its fine to drive for me. if i go up my drive and and give it a bit of a kick it cherps around a bit, same when i turn into a street from stand still. but more of the time im easy on the gas so its like i dont have it. but at the moment i think i kill my water pump i over heated it bad so im not driving it and thats a different story.

it will more so depend on the way you drive your car from day to day. if you drive like i do on the street you shouldnt have any problems.

so in short im happy with it but the rest is up to you.
Shane Ilich
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 07:19 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

peter - thanks for the input. is the sort of advice i was looking for. yeah, i dont tend to go too hard very often on the street, so if a 2-way behaves itself in sedate driving, doesnt judder and carry on while trying to park/u-turn/sharp turn, then i'd be happy with it.

question regarding 2-way lsd's on the track - are they more/less predictable than a torsen? i'm under the impression from this thread a 2-way will lock up if you back off half-way through a corner?? is this right?? how does a torsen behave in similar circumstances??
Neil Griffiths
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 08:07 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ideally you want a T-II Torsen...
Mark Paddick
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 06:51 am, by:  Mark Paddick (Sparks) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mee too
Peter Chriss
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vic
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 03:12 pm, by:  Peter Chriss (Pete_and_the_walrus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont know how to put web page links in ,but this site will give you half an idea on the two ways ,1.5 ways and 1 ways.

http://www.cusco.co.jp/english/e_lsd.html


its an ok site it helped me to work out what i had and how mine was ment to be put together.

yeah parkin ,u turns, 3 point turns are all fine ONLY as long as you dont jump on the gas fast or hard.

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