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Dan McColl
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Victoria
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 08:48 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hay guys. I was wondering, now that I've nicely overhauled all my struts, and drained and refilled the reservoir, can I flush out the hydraulic system before I put the struts on to save flushing the dirrrty crappy oil through them.???
Would it work to put a hose onto each oil line and crank her up, or would this do untold amounts of expensive damage???
Don Bagnall
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Taranaki
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Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 08:56 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dan,
Don't know the answer, but have a rummage in these 3 links, they have got useful UZZ32 suspension repair info.

http://www.toyotaimportsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?threadid=5017&highlight=active+pump

http://www.toyotaimportsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6445

http://www.toyotaimportsforum.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5211

Peter Scott
Tinkerer
South Australia
Active V8

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Friday, September 23, 2005 - 09:41 am, by:  Peter Scott (Planetsoarercom) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dan perhaps the way to go would be to turn in the allen key lock nuts on the top of each strut - this will prevent the oil getting in or out of the strut.
Then refit them all, and just bleed the one strut at a time by turning the allen key out again. Perhaps the first strut will bleed most of the old oil out.
But really I reckon it won't be much of a problem.
I wouldn't try starting it up without the struts connected. It would spray all the oil everywhere in a microsecond, run dry, make terrible noises and put air locks everywhere.
Dan McColl
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Victoria
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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 08:24 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

DO NOT TRY THIS
I tried it the other day, hooked up all the drain lines into buckets, started the engine.
Seemed fine for 2-3 seconds and then started making horrid grinding noises from (I think) the hydraulic pump. I very quickly turned it off as I had my hand on the key incase anything went wrong. Hopefully I haven't wrecked the hydraulic pump.
Any ideas???
Jeff Harper
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NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 08:39 pm, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No pump likes to run dry mate. I reckon you should slow down some and think.
Dan McColl
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Victoria
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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 09:42 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It shouldn't have been running dry. I even put extra oil in the reservoir for it to pump through. I don't understand how it would be running dry.
Is there any suggestions.
Next step is to fit the struts and suspension when the bits come back and have a go at Peter's idea.
Brendon Watt
Newbie
Qld
UZZ32 and TT

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Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 11:01 pm, by:  Brendon Watt (Brendonwatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It can lift the entire car in a few seconds. I would not run it with 4 open hoses. When I bled mine it ran dry and yes bloody horrible noise...
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 12:46 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe the pump requires back pressure to stay happy?
Dan McColl
TryHard
Victoria
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 06:37 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That the conclusion that I've come to as well, Pen. Either that or I have a bloody great airlock in the system.

I was only going to run it for a few seconds, top up and run again until the fluid looked clear.

P.S Is my thinking right that the small hoses under the guards are for pressure to the bottom of the piston, or are they just a drain.

Brendon Watt wrote on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 11:01 pm:

When I bled mine it ran dry and yes bloody horrible noise...


Did it still work fine after that??
Dan McColl
TryHard
Victoria
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 08:17 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I retract my previous loud statement.

It turned out to be a air lock or something, You were on the money, Jeff. Thanx.

Anyway, I slightly pressurised the reservoir by putting some tight fitting hose into the dipstick hole and blowing into it as hard as I could while starting the engine. It worked and no more bad noises.

Makes me feel better about flushing it before I put the struts back on, It seems acheiveable now.
Brendon Watt
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Qld
UZZ32 and TT

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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 10:08 pm, by:  Brendon Watt (Brendonwatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you thinking of resealing the pistons in the accumulator like Peter has just done. He said they only lasted a couple of months before emptying again?
Dan McColl
TryHard
Victoria
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Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 10:11 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah. I've installed the new valves and bought the needle tool. I'll recharge them and see how they go. They still had a fair bit of pressure when I removed the screws. If they go down again then I'll have to re-seal the accumulators.
Jan Heinrich
Tinkerer
NSW
UZZ32 No. 312

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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 09:53 am, by:  Jan Heinrich (Yarno) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dan, where did you get the valves and needle tool from??

Cheers
Jan
Dan McColl
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Victoria
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 07:34 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got them from Walter the Shock Doctor. (08) 8284 8033.

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