Monday, February 04, 2008 - 11:29 am, by: Rashmin Peiris(Ripthecannon)
Hi, just looking for a little advice here- the crappy tyres that I have now often lose traction regardless of weather conditions or speed and I must say its quite scary, especially because this is how they're performing with around 85% tread. So seeing as I'm planning to get a set of bigger wheels soon anyway, I was hoping you guys in the club could give me some advice on a good set of tyres (which are also affordable- probably up to around $800 for the set) to get with the wheels. thanks ! Rashmin
Monday, February 04, 2008 - 03:03 pm, by: Vinh Bui(Hyudsjk)
When you go and purchase your new wheels, the cost usually involves tyres. E.g. set of 18's will cost you about $1500-$2000 including tyres. You can always pay a little bit extra for some better or thicker tyres.
Will need sizes also in regards to tyre cost. The bigger the more expensive obviously.
Brian Timms DieHard New South Wales TT Soarer Goodness.
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 09:10 am, by: Rashmin Peiris(Ripthecannon)
ok I'm planning to get 18's, so I was wondering, say they have an offer for a wheel and tyre package- then if I buy the wheels without the tyres, then how much would I get off the price?
Also, if $200 is too cheap per tyre, then how much am I looking at for a decent set?
'These wheels are in good condition as can be seen in the pictures, and will look good on Skylines!!! Also suitable for Supra, Falcon, Magna, Soarer etc.'
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 11:34 am, by: Alen Sadikovic(Alen87)
i have recently purchased new tyres for my soarer and i have found that you cant exactly judge a tyre by its price. i have been to every tyre shop in my area and i have found same/similar tyres and their prices varied between $200-$350, it all depeneds on the shop.
i have found k-mart tyre centre to be the most expensive and tyre power pro to be the cheapest (my area that is).
i think paying anything above $300per tyre for 18inch is crazy
Brian Timms DieHard New South Wales TT Soarer Goodness.
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 02:26 pm, by: Brian Timms(Turbo_brian)
Alen Sadikovic wrote on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 11:34 am:
i have recently purchased new tyres for my soarer and i have found that you cant exactly judge a tyre by its price.
This statement is 100% true.
I purchased a set of Firestone Wideoval tires for my previous car some time ago at $225/tire for 2 215/40 17". The tires where
Had to get them replaced after a skidpan day, and needed tires for rego real quick, so I got a set of $88 Maxxis tires from Bobbies, and they where grippy, sticky, quiet, and stuck to the road like sh1t to a blanket, loved them. I thought they would wear quickly though being as grippy and soft as they where, but they lasted a good while as well.
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 04:22 pm, by: Lawrence Ostle(Lawrence)
Brian Timms wrote on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 02:26 pm:
This statement is 100% true.
...and THAT statement is by definition 100% subjective.
Have a look at the Wheels tyre tests last year and compare the brand names versus the chinese take aways. The difference in performance across the various categories is quite broad.
These are objective 'blind' tests, and the only opinions really worth taking seriously.
The difference between cheap and expensive rubber is say what - $800 per set? Over the life of the tyre - say 30000k's - it's under 3c per kilometer.
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 05:59 pm, by: Brian Timms(Turbo_brian)
Lawrence Ostle wrote on Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 04:22 pm:
Over the life of the tyre - say 30000k's - it's under 3c per kilometer.
And if it falls right on rego time, it's that 3c/km that is the difference between having a 'just a street legal car', or having a 'save stret legal car'.
Some of the tires they allow on higher performance cars such as turbo and V8 cars because they have the right treat depth, compared to tires that have the better compound, but are within maybe a mm or 2 of the depth indicator (note: I did 17,000kms on tires that where 1.5mm from the legal tread depth indicator) is crazy.
With regards to my own tires, I have Pirelli P Zero Nero on all 4 corners on the Soarer, I used to use Bridgestone Potenza on the 180sx, I have used many brands of tires and played, and done my own testing at the track, was lucky enough to get multiple sets of "rejects" from a tire shop that where rejected for reasons other than compount and tread, and got to play on a skid pan for a day with the tires, and form that, I have made my choices.
Seriously though, it comes down to a mix of driver preference, vehicle of choice, power to the wheels, driver style, wheel choice and suspention setup.
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 06:12 pm, by: David Vaughan(Davidv)
To be fair, it also comes to price one way or another. Lawrence and Brian (and I) are expressing some different priorities about where we spend our car dollars, and arguing that they are better priorities for your own safety and driving pleasure. The tyres I use are named in my profile, and it is not the ones on the Soarer which cost me most although all of them fail Alan's craziness test . The result, however, is just brilliant and I can see the same view in the posts by my fellow commenters.
You need also to know the tyre sizes offered for sale for your wheels, a factor which constrains my choice for the Soarer.
Tuesday, February 05, 2008 - 11:29 pm, by: Benny Gammelmark(Oldfield)
Goodyear F1's recently got extremely good write-ups after a blind test in the UK.
I have been using Pirelli P-Zero Nero but have changed now. I wanted Yokohamas as I find them very good. The Nero's are very good when new and just scrubbed in but they tend to become "hard" when getting close to the end of their life. You need to change them before they get to the legal minimum (actually a bit before).
My current tyres are Bridgestone RE-something or other (don't actually remember and I haven't got my car here). I think they're called RE55. Not too expensive and a very good tyre. It remains to be seen how durable they are.
I will get Yokohamas next time but not the Dragons, I've tried them and they suck (at least with my driving style).
My VW came with Michelin Pilot Exalto. They are very good on the car and seem to perform extremely well in the wet. I don't know the price though. They may be expensive. They may also perform different on a 4wd like the VW as opposed to a Soarer.
Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 11:18 am, by: Rashmin Peiris(Ripthecannon)
Sorry Lawrence I only just checked it now and it was sold ! But I've already decided on the wheels I want to get, so I just need tyres on their own...but I must say, those looked pretty damn good
Wednesday, February 06, 2008 - 11:24 am, by: Rashmin Peiris(Ripthecannon)
Well thanks for all the pointers guys, I really appreciate it and I'll keep everything in mind when I go tyre shopping in a few months after I've saved up enough (hopefully prices will have declined by then !)
Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 01:04 am, by: Rashmin Peiris(Ripthecannon)
Would it be bad to run two different types of tyres - e.g. pirellis up front, and advans at the back? (if yes, then why?) thanks for all the input so far guys, and thanks in advance to any more