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Ben Gardner
Tinkerer
SA
V8

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Reg: 12-2006

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Monday, March 24, 2008 - 02:16 pm, by:  Ben Gardner (Gardna) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have been doing some research into replacing my airbags with coilovers or coils/springs and i am wondering what people recommend. i know that buying new airbags is supposed to be the best way but $4000 is to much for me on apprentice wages.

i have been looking at HSD coilovers which i can purchase for $1450 and i can choose whatever spring rates i wish. (any recommendations on spring rates is very welcome)
OR secondhand tein flex for around the same money

i have been shying away from coils/springs setups due to a lack of adjustability, but have also been told that the linear valving in most asian coilovers tends to make the ride uncomfortable.

basically i am looking for peoples experiences, keeping in mind that i wish to keep the car very streetable, whilst not being opposed to it being harder id like to keep it in the realms of comfort.
Paul Lehmann
Tinkerer
Qld
1994 UZZ31 - Black w/Black Leather!

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Reg: 08-2005

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Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 05:16 pm, by:  Paul Lehmann (Fingers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't comment on spring rate or experiences, but if you're just looking at the HSD HS range of coilovers, you can save some coin here:

http://www.otomoto.com.au/HDSystems/
Ben Lipman
DieHard
NSW
Soarer TT manual

Posts: 691
Reg: 04-2006

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Sunday, April 13, 2008 - 06:59 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SuspensionRide height reduction Spring rate kg/mmPrice (as quoted to me)
Stock TT coilsstandard??
King springs-Lowapprox 30-40mmF 7.6 / R 3.75$350 set
Tein S-techF45/R31mm$500 set
HSD CoiloversadjustableF 12 / R7 $1,600
Tein Super street (Aus)adjustableF 8.9 / R 5.1$1,850
D2adjustableF 17.8 / R 8.7$1,125
G4adjustableF 17.8 / R 8.7$1,399


Some stuff I found when I was looking into buying my suspension. I ended up with Tein Super streets. The spring rate (9kg/mm front, 5kg/mm rear) is pretty good for the street. My family still use the car for trips away with no complaints from the missus. My Dad (who doesn't like cars) thinks it is a bit harsh(he drives a magna.)

In my opinion 17 kg/mm etc would be excessive for a daily driver, but good on the track. Whilst I like the Teins, I would look more seriously at the HSD if I had to do it all over again. (no one I knew had used them at the time - since then they are all over the import motorsport scene)
Ben Gardner
Tinkerer
SA
V8

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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 11:42 am, by:  Ben Gardner (Gardna) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks, i think ill probably go the hsd's but with a spring rate similar to the teins
Bobby Green
Tinkerer
QLD
TT

Posts: 84
Reg: 09-2005

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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 02:38 pm, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can get Tein Super streets brand new for $1340 delivered and Tein monoflex for around $1800. PM if you want contact details. It ships from Japan though so a week or so in delivery time.
Matt Petersen
Tinkerer
NA
V8

Posts: 34
Reg: 01-2008

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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 03:18 pm, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where did you get those springs rates from Ben?

I got a set of Comfort Sport Tein's a few months ago and chose them because of their 10/6 spring rate which was lower than most other coilovers.

Looking at the Tein website it shows the Super Streets as being 14/8.

Matt.
Ben Lipman
DieHard
NSW
Soarer TT manual

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Reg: 04-2006

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Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 06:11 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's been a while...

I am pretty sure I was speaking to the Fulcrum suspension guy (who developed the 'Australian package'). The Superstreets direct from Japan are a lot harder. I have the original packaging in the shed somewhere. It may be written in there somewhere as well.

I chose the Teins because of the softer spring rates after being in a D2 equipped car and hated it.
Natasha Schmidt
Tinkerer
sa
v8 uzz31

Posts: 7
Reg: 03-2008

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Friday, May 16, 2008 - 12:55 pm, by:  Natasha Schmidt (Freestylergirl) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i changed from air bags to coils, I do not know what brand but it rides great, only problem is the tems or active suspension japanese code won't go away on the dash. i have noticed the cables to the air struts arn't hooked up and was wondering if i hook them up will this cause damage as the electronic air bags are no longer there.
the coils i got cost $500 and was $200 for labour i think at some place in north east road adelaide. after he changed them over i drove it home and the cd stacker wasn't functioning the perfect way it was before and the boot wouldn't open from the inside of the car by pressing the button.
i wished i had replaced the air bag instead now as you can get 1 air bag for around $250 also i have a height controller but i was thinking of a long term fix at the time.
up to you though just thought i would share my experience.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Friday, May 16, 2008 - 12:59 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just guessing, but they may have removed the fuse that drives the air pump when doing this conversion, not sure if that also provides power for the stacker and boot release.
Andrew Meiers
DieHard
Victoria
TT

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Reg: 07-2005

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Friday, May 16, 2008 - 07:00 pm, by:  Andrew Meiers (Acmtt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remove the suspension computer to get rid of the dash warning. Its under the back seat somewhere, can't remember exactly.
Steve Davies
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NSW
V8 GT-Ltd

Posts: 12
Reg: 04-2008

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Friday, May 16, 2008 - 07:14 pm, by:  Steve Davies (Nubby) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its in the passenger rear side panel.Seat removal is necessary. I disconnected mine the other day. I didn't know these things had a clock on the instrument panel

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