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Scott Wilkes
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Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 05:52 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes i know there are plenty of posts, but most are older and as such alot of the tyres have been discontinued.

Went into a tyre store today, and got a pricing on

Bridgestone R001 tyres, supposably Very very good

My tyre specs are
235/40ZR18 fronts
265/35ZR18 rears

For the bridgestones its $345 each for the fronts
And $449 each for the rears
About 1600 All up

As much as id love to have awesome tyres, at the moment i just cannot afford them.

What are some other tyres that are slightly cheaper and more affordable? But still good tyres
Daniel Clarke
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Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 06:57 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Khumo Ectsa Ku31's im running all round. Seem pretty decent for the price. I paid $155 each for 235/40/18's fronts and $275 each for 265/35/18's on the rear.
Scott Wilkes
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Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 07:15 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cool thanks, that seems more within my range.

Anyone else have any preferences?
Evan Kaio
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Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 07:49 pm, by:  Evan Kaio (Knave) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pirelli P6000 245/45/18.
A bit of scraping on the plastic liners in the wheel arch when on full lock.
A bit noisy too.
Very grippy.
Not sure of cost as I bought them with the alloys.
David Vaughan
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Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 07:51 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those Bridgestone RE001 you mention are so good they beat the more expensive (>$600/wheel on my car) Michelin Pilot Sport 2. Believe me, because I have owned two full sets of the Michies and compared the new Bridgestones with them and with Goodyear F1s on two cars. The Bridgestones might sound expensive to you but I would rather spend money on the best tyres than any other performance modification whatsoever. It pays every minute of driving and makes you less rather than more likely to die. :-)
Scott Wilkes
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Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 08:30 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i know there good tyres, hence why i want them. But the fact of the matter is, i dont have 1600 to spare lol. If i did id have them on my car by now.

Which leads me to my predicament, what are good tyres (obviously not as good as RE001s) but good, dont want cheap crap
Cihan Aday
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Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 09:12 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For a good value for money tyre, go for the Dunlop SP3000.

I've got 245/45/18 RE001's currently on the rear and they're fantastic but relatively expensive.

The Dunlop's are great, especially in the wet. I previously had a set and they did very well for the money. They're roughly $230 each in 235/40/18.

Another option to consider are the Goodyear F1's in GS-3, OR Asymmetric if the price is right.
Scott Wilkes
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Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 09:46 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goodyear F1 asymetics for my rim sizees

are
rears $710 each
Fronts $485 each
Ive heard there awesome tyres but, at over 2K for the tyres, no thanks HAHA.

Just been told that Maxxis MA-Z1s are gppd
http://www.maxxis.com/AutomobileLight-Truck/High-Performance/MA-Z1-Victra.aspx

If i can get makes and models im going in tomorrow to various tyres stores and getting prices on the lot
Lawrence Ostle
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Friday, April 03, 2009 - 10:18 am, by:  Lawrence Ostle (Lawrence) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Read Car magazines tyre review for an objective view. Just don't buy Nangkang. I HAD Pirelli Rosso's, bought new rims with Nangkangs already on - hey how bad can they be...? I found out pretty quickly. I know they are MUCH cheaper but this is silly.
Scott Wilkes
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Friday, April 03, 2009 - 12:10 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well just went in and ordered some Maxxis MA-V1s, supposably a good tyre, total all up is $1030, so will see how they go, meant to be pretty good for there price
Luke Burt
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Friday, April 03, 2009 - 02:44 pm, by:  Luke Burt (Burt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So many people knock nankangs!

Personally I don't think you can do much better for the price. I find they handle pretty well for their $ value.

You get what you pay for, and i think paying $450 for a tyre is ridiculous.

Nankangs in 265/35/19 are about $280 a tyre, and I think they do their job quite well.
Lawrence Ostle
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Friday, April 03, 2009 - 03:59 pm, by:  Lawrence Ostle (Lawrence) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Luke Burt wrote on Friday, April 03, 2009 - 02:44 pm:

Personally I don't think you can do much better for the price


that's like saying 'he's a cheap heart surgeon, but you can't get much better for the price!'
Luke Burt
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Friday, April 03, 2009 - 04:15 pm, by:  Luke Burt (Burt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't see how that's really relevant.

Nankangs are the best of the cheaper class of tyres, and they do the job just fine.

If you can justify paying twice what they are worth for a set of tyres, that's your prerogative.

I'm giving the poster my opinion on what I find to be the best balance between $ Value and performance.
Daniel Clarke
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Friday, April 03, 2009 - 04:34 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The khumo's are better imo and similar priced to nangkamgs .. I will be lookin at spending some more $$$ on tyres as im sick of replacin them every 20,000 if that . Seems every 12 mths these cheaper tyres dont last on the fronts at all.
Damian Ware
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Friday, April 03, 2009 - 04:55 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tyre life for me isn't overly important (I don't do many kms) but it is always a factor in the bad of my mind.

I am more concerned with grip, feel, noise and ride quality.

Daniel, TT's are hard on front tyres if the pressures or alignment are wrong. They have more weight over the front tyres compared with the V8's and they seem to like more pressure up front ie 4psi or so more than the rears.
Daniel Clarke
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 12:17 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Damian, will try runnin some more psi into them... IM about to change Steering rack bushes with Vlamos ones and i got some 2nd hand LCA's with 6mth old pedders bushes in them which i need to swap over and gte wheel aligned. ONce i do that i will rotate the tyres from side to side and see how it drives then :-)

CHeers for the info.
Bobby Green
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 11:13 am, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forget brand when choosing a tyre. You need to look at the softness/hardness of the compound if you are concerned with grip. A soft model nankang with flog a hard model Michelin/Pirelli/Bridgestone any day of the week. If you want grip stay away from Pirelli Dragons, they are an incredibly hard compound from experience. Hard is good if you want them to say road legal for a long time, but very bad if you like to go around corners at a decent speed.

Kumho KU36, bang for your buck for a street tyre, is hard to beat. I like Yokohama V103 if you want to be as grippy as possible and don't care about the price. If your car isn't a daily, Toyo R888 semi-slicks are nice and also road legal.

There is a sale on Kumho's here:
http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=398317
Damian Ware
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 03:19 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bobby, that is not the entire story.

Classic example is the Advan Sport. Very soft rubber but the tyre isn't able to generate as much grip for cornering braking or accelleration as other tyres on the market from the same class.

From the reviews I have read it performance is actually quite poor even though it has a 180 treadwear compared with 220-240 for most other tyres in its class.

You need use all available information to make the best choice on which tyre suits you.

The tyre I would like to buy is Pilot Sports as they meet all my requirements and I have driven on them simple the best available that I have personally experienced, apart from cost.

At this stage I am looking at RE-01's, but I am waiting to see the new RE-11R's before I make any decisions.

Something else to consider is tyre size and a huge misconception is what size to run. Most people think running a wider tyre is only a good thing. Well it is and it isn't and going too wide reduces grip for accelleration and braking. As to running stretched tyres apart from drifting it is the worst thing you can possibly do and should never be done on a road car.
Scott Wilkes
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 03:29 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

those KU36s look awesome, but being a daily driver and living in tassie, (rains a bit) They wouldnt be to good.

Hopefully these Maxxis tyres are good :-)

Anyone have any experience on them?
Chris Round
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 04:19 pm, by:  Chris Round (Hermie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott,

After reading this post I just went to look at my tyres. I got Maxxis MAV-1 installed on the rears early December. I had them previously on my VT Commodore, but that barely broke traction, so I was not too knowledgable on the wear.

However, I can now say that either I need some SERIOUS suspension work done, or these tyres are no good! haha!

After 4 months, they have medium to heavy wear on the inside edge, and no, I don't do burnouts, just an occasional chirp off the line, which I don't really consider to be enough to wear them this heavily.

So in summary, in my current position I am not happy with the wear, but it could just be my car and the suspension. They have a bit of camber on them, but something is out and scrubbing them bad.

As for the tyre itself, I found it to be affordable, gives a good launch to a mildly modified TT, and no real tyre noise to mention.

Now I have to check out this wear issue ....
Scott Wilkes
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 04:39 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks mate. Im getting a full balance and wheel alignment when i get them fitted. Hopefully i dont get the problem you have mentioned.

If they do wear quickly, then lesson learnt, il stick the S15 wheels back on and save for some new tyres HAHA. Thanks
Bobby Green
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 08:55 pm, by:  Bobby Green (Nash) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just my 2 cents, Damian. I like the V103's because they are oem on quite a few cars these days so most Yoko shops stock them and can do deals on them. The wider the tyre, the better they are able to dissipate heat, it has nothing to do with the contact patch, that remains unchanged regardless of the width of tyre you use. For a street tyre, its always a compromise between tyre life and traction, general rule of thumb is hard = poor traction but very long tyre life (e.g. Pirelli Dragons, Nankang NS2's) and soft compound = short tyre life but good traction (V103's/Pilot Sports).
Damian Ware
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 09:16 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is it exactly, wider tyres are all about cooling and a little about the shape of the contact patch.

Also true that softer rubber aids grip but it isn't the only factor that effects the grip.
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 09:47 pm, by:  Michael Crimp (Zen1953) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is an interesting and relevant discussion because I have just checked the wear guides on my tyres and Hmmm, only a few thousands Km's left.
My rims are stock and I was thinking that there must be heaps of good cheap tyres to recycle because everyone want bigger rims and fancy mags. However 16" tyres are relatively cheap so I won't risk it unless the I get an offer and quality I can't refuse.
I have three Obsessions:
I like whisper quiet,
and
Hammering tight mountain passes at the apex of cars and my ability.
And
I can never seem to resist taking the car to the limiter when a clear straight opens up.
(Which is the reason I won't have it delimited.)

Does anyone have some practical recommendations?
Damian Ware
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Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 10:00 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For stock rims you cant go pass Michelin.

Try and get a set of Pilot Proceeders as they are whisper quiet. I assume there new replacement is also whisper quiet but I haven't personally driven on them to make comment.

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