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Paul Bell
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V8

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Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 08:52 pm, by:  Paul Bell (Bello) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So i'd really like to ditch the standard wheels and go for something that fills the arches nicely but i don't really want to have the arches rolled or have a speedo thats to far out.

What would people recomend? thanks
Ian Johnston
DieHard
South Australia
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Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 09:02 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anything other than stock Soarer maybe illegal as far as wheel track goes. I run TT wheels on my V8(16")and 17" Lexus on the other.
This subject was covered recently on here, so maybe do a search.
Paul Bell
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Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 09:25 pm, by:  Paul Bell (Bello) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks i did do a search after posting this thread (should have searched first doh!)

So is it possible to get the car modplated for wider rims? and does anyone know what might be involved?
Tim Ross
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Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 10:52 pm, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ian, whilst that might be true for some states, it is not for QLD.

See the link below and look for the section regarding vehicle track (page 12/18)

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/resources/file/ebde8d0521b67c6/Pdf_modification_motor_vehicles2.pdf
Spencer Cameron
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NSW
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Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 11:03 pm, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just about everything is illegal Paul, that said, most mechanics wont blink at wheels conservative enough to not require guard rolling.

The 17's that I have are 8 and 9, front and rear respectively and I've never had any problems with rego checks or anyone else. They also don't put the speedo out much, but its still noticeable.
James Cahir
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Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 11:04 pm, by:  James Cahir (James987) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Paul I've got Volk SF Challenge rims, I think they fill out the arches nicely without being excessive. I love them.

Front- 17x8 +35 offset 235/45R17
Rear - 17x9 +40 offset 255/40R17




My Soarer is lowered and the fronts sometimes scrub on full lock turns, however it didn't scrub at all with the standard height suspension.
Mark Tierney
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Monday, August 31, 2009 - 08:17 am, by:  Mark Tierney (Mark_t) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My 18's put the speedo out about 3k's. When the speedo is reading 113, its about 110 real time. My offset is 45 with 18x235's. They could be a little wider to fill the guards at the rear (255's would have been perfect), fronts are quite nicely positioned. Wheels are 18-in Machined Tourmaline alloy wheels from Lexus
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David Vaughan
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Monday, August 31, 2009 - 08:55 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The comments made by a couple of people suggesting almost anything non-stock is illegal imply that it is difficult to get what you want legally while no-one will worry too much if you don't comply. That view is at best uninformed and uninformative.

You can go down to +38 offset and there are plenty of wheels out there in the 38-50 offset range which look good and come in a wide range of sizes.

If you are not satisfied with those but would rather up your handling as well as your positions on insurance and possible criminal liability then I can source fluffy dice for you at only $90 per face or a bargain discount at $1090 a pair. Hanging cord extra but you are licensed to use it on yourself.

If you read this then NSW and QLD RTA advice is on the record here so don't think of pretending you never knew.
Steven Anderson
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Monday, August 31, 2009 - 12:50 pm, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree with David

- Offset between 38-50 will be fine for wheels that arent massively wide
- Hub diameter is 60.1mm, if you let the place you buy your wheels from know what car is they should supply you with the right size hub rings.
- Use this page
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html to calculate your tyre sizes to try to match the original setup.
The general 3 sizes are
17x8 - 235/45/17
18x8 - 235/40/18
18x9 - 265/35/18

Not sure about fully sik 19s.

Yes, you may get defected if you run anything other than a stock car, but usually only if you hang out at maccas and yell at cops.
Spencer Cameron
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Monday, August 31, 2009 - 03:20 pm, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Vaughan wrote on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 08:55 am:

blah blah blah, yap, yap, yap..




Gee Dave, you spend much more time on that soap box and your gunna wear it out..


Steven Anderson wrote on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 12:50 pm:

Yes, you may get defected if you run anything other than a stock car, but usually only if you hang out at maccas and yell at cops.




Paul, that's about the jist of it. Provided your rims aren't hummer sized or sticking out of the guards like this guys:

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/292/296722.html?1251689859

.. you should be alright with rego checks and the fuzz. Aim for Steven sized wheels and you wont have a problem.
Paul Bell
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Monday, August 31, 2009 - 04:28 pm, by:  Paul Bell (Bello) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for all the advice everyone its much appreciated!
I don't want to go over the top so i reckon james wheels size looks like a winner.
David Vaughan
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Monday, August 31, 2009 - 05:08 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wasn't talking about being defected casually, Spencer, but what happens after you stuff the car into someone.


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Spencer Cameron
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Monday, August 31, 2009 - 07:53 pm, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


David Vaughan wrote on Monday, August 31, 2009 - 05:08 pm:

Spencer, but what happens after you stuff the car into someone.




I wouldn't know Dave, I've never run into anyone.

The only accident I've had was the result of a mechanical failure. That car had the largest sized wheels capable of fitting under a E30 318 and despite that, the insurance went through without a problem.
David Vaughan
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Monday, August 31, 2009 - 08:09 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A. "Largest wheels" does not equate to "illegal offset" so it is not to the point.
B. You did not mention hitting anyone, so it is not to the point.
C. Was it topic of a police investigation with potential for charges? If not then it was not to the point.

Regardless of answers to any or all of the above, you confuse surviving risk with sense.

I am curious to know what was the mechanical failure?
Adam Barry
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Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 11:25 am, by:  Adam Barry (Acdchook) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's the relevant section of the NCOPs. Page 17 covers allowable tyre and wheel widths. There are no restrictions on rim diameter, as long as the overall tyre circumference isn't altered too much.

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/pdf/NCOP11_Section_LS_Suspension_ and_steering_3Feb2006.pdf
Matt Fairless
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Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 11:55 am, by:  Matt Fairless (Fairlezz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Check this for tyre fitment!
need to see more of it around!
im running a 235/40/18 on a 9.5 wide rear.
streeeeeeetch!


{
http://www.tyrestretch.com/index.php,http://www.tyrestretch.com/index.php}
Matthew Sharpe
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Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 06:17 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still safe for most manufacturers tyres, just.
Andrew Duaso
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Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 06:47 am, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah need to see more of this around, dickheads

Ali Saeed
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Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 07:01 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thats pimpin' yo
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Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 08:49 am, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol, that was ambitious of the tyre monkey..
Matthew Sharpe
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 06:04 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, thats where this dickhead is heading...


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Andrew Duaso
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Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 06:07 am, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

haha dude that cant be serious lol
Matthew Sharpe
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Friday, September 04, 2009 - 06:35 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whole website is a joke if you ask me.
Scott Casey
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Friday, September 04, 2009 - 06:45 am, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

18"

front 225-45-18 +45
rear 255-45-18 +45
Spencer Cameron
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Friday, September 04, 2009 - 08:25 am, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why so fired up about undersized tyres..?

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