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Kevin Trac
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2141.sydney.nsw
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 01:26 pm, by:  Kevin Trac (Menty) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dropped the car off at pedders to replace my rear UCA bushes. They were completely destroyed.

Apparently, there has been so much movement in the Control arms that the bolt holding it on has bent.

If they can get it out without dropping the subframe it is a $250 labor charge, If they have to drop the subframe, $1K.

Who would have thought a 1`K charge to replace only the bushes

Also, the diff bushings have minor cracks in them. (see picture). The one on the left is large enough to put a spanner in.

There is also minor cracks in the drivshaft rubber thing? Pedders said this didnt need to be replaced as it only acts as a 'shock absorber' mechanism. (small cracks seen in the photo)




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Matt Petersen
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 01:36 pm, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How many km's on the car Kevin?

Matt.
Kevin Trac
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 01:42 pm, by:  Kevin Trac (Menty) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About 150K.
Pedders said that they had never seen anything like it before (the UCA bushes). You could take them off by hand.

The Front bushes are all OK and the rear LCA bushes are all fine though.
Andrew Duaso
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Victoria
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 02:05 pm, by:  Andrew Duaso (Andrewd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i dont see any pics of an upper control arm there lol

go somewhere else

1K is a joke, you can buy 3 new soarers for that.... almost

pedders told me everything was rooted in my car, including the brandnew front lca bushes (still like new) but the rear uca ones that i know are stuffed they said were ok... ummm ok
Daniel Lee
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 02:05 pm, by:  Daniel Lee (Son_gokou) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My car done over 230k km and the rear bushes are still fine!

I only needed to change the front lower control bushes.

For $1000 that is a big job if it just to change the rear bushes!
Kevin Trac
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 02:15 pm, by:  Kevin Trac (Menty) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They showed me how there was lots of free play in the UCA, and told me that they could not get the bolt out as the front bolt was very bent. The rear bolts came out fine though.

If the bolt snaps they would have to hire an external contractor to take it out
Kevin Trac
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:33 pm, by:  Kevin Trac (Menty) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The subframe has to be dropped.
The bill is 1K.
:-(
Mike Beck
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:55 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wow how odd.
Kevin Trac
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:46 pm, by:  Kevin Trac (Menty) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does 1K sound like a reasonable quote for dropping the subframe and all?

Apparently they tried to remove the bolt but it just would not come out
Matt Petersen
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Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:52 pm, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds a bit steep to me.

To remove the rear subframe it's basically undo the shocks, undo the calipers and handbrake cable, disconnect the driveshaft and then unbolt the subframe.

Two people are needed and a hoist is a must but at $70-80 an hour thats around 12 hours labour which seems a bit.

If that includes removing the bolts, fitting the bushes in the arms and all the other areas that need sorting plus refitting then perhaps it's okay.

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Myles Jantzen
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Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 12:48 am, by:  Myles Jantzen (Maxx999) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get a second opinion mate.
Matthew Sharpe
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Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 06:46 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, its just not that big a job.
Kevin Trac
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Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 07:08 am, by:  Kevin Trac (Menty) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have convinced me to give niall a call and see what he can do. I'll give pedders a ring today and see what my options are
Peter Taplin
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Wednesday, December 09, 2009 - 05:17 pm, by:  Peter Taplin (Mrfourwd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The nuts on the subframe are not captive so if the bolt breaks it will just knock out after dropping the front of the crossmember first.

The only reason the bolt is damaged is they have not used the correct procedure to undo it.. they must have rounded it off.

I have struck some very hard ones to undo but none I could not get with a long bar and lots of grunt and a single hex impact socket

You can get into it with a angle grinder if you just drop one side of the crossmember then take the head of the bolt and drive the shank out..
then just replace the bolt and jobs done.

Make sure you use rubber bushes as the nolathane type tend to end up squeeking.
David Tra
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Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 12:39 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My rear subframe bushes look like that also. What problems are you experiencing????

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