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Warren Moore
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer 6cyl 3.0L

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Reg: 01-2010

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Friday, January 15, 2010 - 06:18 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys, I'm not too experienced with suspension etc.

Just went for a test-drive in the soarer I am wanting to buy which has coilovers. I think they are some el-cheapo ones cause when going a speedhump at 30km/h, it was very rigid and unsmooth. Felt as if the front lip hit the speedhump. When reversing the car onto the road I also heard some crackling coming from the suspension.

Basically the mechanic said that the suspension is very tight or else the tyre would rub.. so you need to take speedhump slow. I have the option of putting stock suspension back on or keeping the coilovers.

In the future I am thinking about throwing a front, side and rear kit on the car. The car already has 18's by the way.

Here is a link to the car:
http://www.uniquecarsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!unique_content.enquiry?current_rec=6&page_number=1&vehicle_id=7390741&total_rec=44&sort_type=1&make _id=8&model_id=140&price_max=20000&state_id=7&photo_flag=1

What do you guys think?

Warren
Boris Siljanoski
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

Posts: 151
Reg: 11-2007

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Friday, January 15, 2010 - 11:55 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Many coils are quite rough compared to stock suspension, so you might get a feeling that there is something wrong with them when there is not.

$10500 is way overpriced for a non turbo Soarer. Most dealers are stupid, dumb and retarded at the best. Some flattering quotes from that page

"Bargain Price wont last long." - Yeah I don't think that price would last long before he changes it to something more acceptable. You can get Twin Turbo's in the $8000 - $10,000 Range.

For it to be worth that amount, I'd expect it to be Ultra Clean, and no problems at all.
Nathan Hlad
DieHard
NT
JZZ30 TT

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Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 12:01 am, by:  Nathan Hlad (Jackpot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah my soarer has tein super streets and they are a lot stiffer than the stock springs.
going over bumps, pot holes, etc it can get a bit uncomfortable.
i found the stock springs were comfortable but just couldnt compete with the performance of aftermarket coilovers. no offence to anyone who loves stock suspension.
i have a pretty low body kit at the moment and it can get a bit annoying going up every driveway sideways.
depends on what you prefer warren
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
V8 Limited

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Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 12:24 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mate id advise you to shop around for a better soarer.
Warren Moore
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer 6cyl 3.0L

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Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 05:49 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for your input guys.

Reason why I am paying such a price is for a non turbo is because I am on my P's and cannot drive TT or V8. P-plate legal soarers tend to high a slightly more expensive price due to this reason. Also the ride is black on black with black leather interior, only 100k on the odo, 18" rims and coilovers.

I obviously won't be paying 10.5 for it, that's what they are asking. My goals were to negotiate anywhere from 1-2k off the asking price by paying cash etc. It also needs 100k major service which I would use in my negotiations.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated. May even start a thread asking for suggestions about the specific soarer I am looking at and if it seems like a decent choice.
David Goldthorpe
TryHard
NSW
UZZ31 GT-L

Posts: 165
Reg: 11-2007

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Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 07:12 pm, by:  David Goldthorpe (Sprocket82) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did your mechanic check the condition of the control arm bushes, steering rack bushes, ball-joints, sway-bar bushes etc. These are some of the suspension parts that are going to wear more rapidly with 18" rims and stiff shock-absorbers fitted. Can be very expensive to fix, too.


Warren Moore wrote on Friday, January 15, 2010 - 06:18 pm:

I also heard some crackling coming from the suspension.




I would have this checked out thoroughly (ie. a Pedders 28 point safety check or similar) before even considering making an offer.
Boris Siljanoski
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

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Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 10:25 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just wait until your on your full liscence. For now just buy something like a Corolla. When your off your P's get a Twin Turbo or V8 Soarer.
David Tra
Goo Roo
qld
TT

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Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 05:09 pm, by:  David Tra (Bookie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hate my coilovers. Wish I never bought them. It gives you that race driver feel. Wish I stuck with TEMS. :-(
Nathan Machin
TryHard
QLD
Soarer 3.0L non Turbo

Posts: 425
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Monday, February 01, 2010 - 10:36 am, by:  Nathan Machin (Nthside_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Warren my SC300 cost me $3500 and it is in immaculate condition, interior is like a new car and the engine and box runs like a dream, yes it has stocko wheels but mate it doesnt cost $7k for a set of nice wheels. Even if you want to buy a new set of Coilovers it will only set you back around $1500.

Trust me mate thats a lot to pay for a SC300.

As for the coilovers they are a very uncomfy ride compared to the stock Shocks.

Just some input for you to think about man.

Mate when mine is painted I will sell you mine for $10,500 and thats with 18inch Chrome wheels, Vertex Body Kit, Custom Carbon Fibre look interior and a spare set of coilovers to change back and forth with your stock shocks if you want hehe.

Way too expensive in my opinion....but if you want to buy it buy mine instead
Warren Moore
Tinkerer
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE

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Sunday, February 07, 2010 - 08:24 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

er bit late now Nathan haha.

I bought my soarer off another member here, Kevin Trac for $9000. Where do you find them for under 5k?
Nathan Machin
TryHard
QLD
SC300

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Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 12:58 pm, by:  Nathan Machin (Nthside_soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry warren i didnt meant a basttardd and say that after you bought yours, i didnt know you had already bought it and its one of my pet hates when someone say "oh you should have gone here cos they sell them so much cheaper..." anyway i do apoligise cos it wasnt my intention.

But mate I got mine off Ebay - Private seller, I have seen them on there since i got mine for around that price. But just keep an eye out mate if you are after another one. Enjoy yours mate cos I love mine.
Warren Moore
Tinkerer
Victoria
JZZ31 2JZ-GE

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Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 02:08 pm, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll still hold you to your offer of $10,500 if its turbo when you are done having your fun with it

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