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Robert Cranfield
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer V8 Limited (UZZ31)

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Reg: 12-2009

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 Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 12:10 pm, by:  Robert Cranfield (Robc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I've had a good look around the net but cannot find any info, obviously because everyone wants power steer.

Did any of the 91- 9? Soarers come without power steering that will fit a UZZ31?

I don't need power to drive a straight line and a couple extra hp is always welcome.

Cheers,
Rob
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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 Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 02:31 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
All Soarers had power steering, luxury heavy car - say no more!

Is there any problem for you to remove or disconnect it though - apart from VERY heavy steering?
Robert Cranfield
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NSW
Soarer V8 Limited (UZZ31)

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 Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:19 pm, by:  Robert Cranfield (Robc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Thanks for the prompt response Peter,

I feared it was so but thought perhaps a poverty pack may have existed.

The only problem I believe will be class legality which I will have to confirm. Depending on how firm it gets, there may also be an issue in avoiding a spin.

Given the other similarities, did the JZA80? Supras come out manual steer?

Cheers,
Rob
Boris Siljanoski
TryHard
Western Australia
Soarer GZ20 TT

Posts: 244
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 Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 04:34 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
All JZA80's that I know of had Power Steering too
Robert Cranfield
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NSW
Soarer V8 Limited (UZZ31)

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 Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:27 pm, by:  Robert Cranfield (Robc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Thanks Boris,

Looks like I may be snookered. I may just opt for a larger pulley to slow it down.

Cheers,
Rob
Austen Menze
DieHard
WA
GT-TL

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 Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 07:45 pm, by:  Austen Menze (Mercyfulfate) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
How much power is gained when you disconnect the power steering?
Robert Cranfield
Tinkerer
NSW
Soarer V8 Limited (UZZ31)

Posts: 75
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 Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 09:31 pm, by:  Robert Cranfield (Robc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I couldn't give you an accurate figure Austen,

There are a lot of guesstimates online that vary widely and I'm sure pump design, operating pressures and the like will vary it as well.

My own personal belief is around 3hp.

Many years ago we used to drag race an almost stock HJ Monaro at Castlereagh and dropping off the power steer belt did improve the times. I cannot remember the exact number any more sadly and there were a lot of other things we did to try and eek out that last ounce of power from the 308.

Cheers,
Rob
James Cahir
TryHard
ACT
Soarer TT

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 Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 09:45 pm, by:  James Cahir (James987) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I just read your profile Robert, are you building a land speed car? If so thats friggin awesome.
Damian Ware
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ32

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 Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:04 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Rob you can probably save some HP by disconnecting the solenoid which changes the level of assist and I would assume the power consumption of the pump.

Removing it results in stiff steering and I assume puts very little load on the pump.
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
TT

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 Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:13 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I didn't think the power steering would zap much power in a straight line as there would be no load as your not doing a lot of steering?
Rob Rojo
Goo Roo
NSW
TT

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 Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 11:14 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Robert,
Is that your Soarer that was on Ebay a couple of months ago from Campbeltown?
Robert Cranfield
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NSW
Soarer V8 Limited (UZZ31)

Posts: 76
Reg: 12-2009

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 Friday, February 12, 2010 - 02:33 pm, by:  Robert Cranfield (Robc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
James,

Yes, it's for land speed racing. Glad you like it, come on down to SA March 8th through 12th for Speed Week.

Cheers,
Rob
Robert Cranfield
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NSW
Soarer V8 Limited (UZZ31)

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 Friday, February 12, 2010 - 02:34 pm, by:  Robert Cranfield (Robc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Thanks Damian,

I'll keep that in mind too. I'd really like to just ditch the pump altogether but will cross that bridge when I come to it. I plan to ask the question of the tech guys at speed week next month.

Cheers,
Rob
Robert Cranfield
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NSW
Soarer V8 Limited (UZZ31)

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 Friday, February 12, 2010 - 02:38 pm, by:  Robert Cranfield (Robc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
G'day Rob,

No matter what you're still driving the belt and turning the pump. You'd be surprised how much steering input there is when driving in a straight line whether from road imperfections, tyre pressure differences, cross winds etc. Next time you're driving down a straight bit of road, lock the steering wheel into one position and see how long before you need to make a correction. Then try it at 320kph on damp salt

No not from Cambelltown.

Cheers,
Rob

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