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Cameron Dearden
Tinkerer
South Australia
UZZ30

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 12:08 am, by:  Cameron Dearden (Crskmd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.pcpa.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=33&products_id=541

any body had experience with these?
Warren Moore
DieHard
Victoria
i drive a car.

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 12:30 am, by:  Warren Moore (Warreng) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no name coilovers.. i personally wouldn't. for a grand you can buy some nice used HKS or Cusco coils
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
UZZ31

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 01:54 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

its D2 coilovers
Ben Lipman
Goo Roo
SA
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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 08:43 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wouldn't buy used suspension parts unless you knew everything about them. You just don't know how much life is left in them.

On the original question, the D2 brand doesn't have much of a following in the motorsport arena. If you want cheap coilovers try the HSD range- there are a few of us running them. You could also try the Pedders extreme (whatever) as whilst they might be rebranded generic coilovers (not known for sure), at least they are sold by a reputable Australian business who has to meet and comply with various trade practices acts, statuatory warrantees, and has a name to protect.

(We all have heard about the franchise problems in some individual pedders branches when it comes to servicing, but their product line up is a national corporate thing and I doubt they would risk their image on absolute rubbish)

Racing Logic are another brand you could try- there are a bunch of drift teams using them.

I would make your selection based on the specs (spring rate, adjustability etc). Tein, through Fulcrum, have stuff designed for the Aussie conditions. I have had a set for about 5 years on the street car. HSD will let you choose your spring rate. Not sure on the rest.
Tom Richards
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nsw
V8

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 10:31 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

anyone tried these?

http://www.bc-racing.com.au/index.html
Scott Wilkes
Goo Roo
Tasmania
92 TT Factory Manual, 70 HG GTS Monaro

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 10:37 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

il be ordering the new generation of BC coilovers next week. The BC br Range which are the gold and black ones. The red ones are the first gen, which is what the pedders coilovers are :-)

Pretty good reviews over the forums, and for the price there nearly unbeatable. Getting better reviews than HSD are at the moment
Gary Rollason
TryHard
Qld
TT 5 speed

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 11:06 am, by:  Gary Rollason (Garyr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So where are you getting them Scott, and what sort of $$ ?
Sebastian Grant
Goo Roo
nsw
soarer TT

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Saturday, January 15, 2011 - 05:41 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A mate of mine had some bc coilovers in his aristo and is putting them in his forester. They are a good coilover for the price and I believe they are adr approved.

I bought some second hand hsd coilovers from a fellow sc member. They were supposed to have only done 5000kms when I purchased them. I've done about that again and one of them is leaking. It is only going to cost $200 to fix but I have to get the coilover out etc which means time off the road so I'll be getting the next gen BC coilovers as well and selling my hsd's. I can't say this is a design fault with hsd however as my car has gone clean over a median strip before at low speed but still, it may have contributed to their early demise.

What spring rates are you going for Scott? I think they recommend 14f 10r. Mine are currently 18f 12r haha.
Scott Wilkes
Goo Roo
Tasmania
92 TT Factory Manual, 70 HG GTS Monaro

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 09:07 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

getting the BCs from justjap, as the genuine distributor is said to be a tool to deal with.

The BCs are $1300 with free shipping, pretty dam good if you ask me :-)

Sebastian not sure on spring rate, the quoted spring rate is 14f and 8r

http://www.justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=19214&cat=&page=1

I wouldnt mind some insight if this would be suitable or if i should ask for slightly stiffer spring rates, it is a street car and i am in tassie(crap roads) but the car is lucky to come out on weekends lol.
Sebastian Grant
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nsw
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Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 09:45 am, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Scott Wilkes wrote on Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 09:07 am:

the genuine distributor is said to be a tool to deal with.



Long story short, he's a tool and an idiot.

With our mods I would think that 10r would be a better option to help with axel tramp. The good thing is replacement springs are dirt cheap, around $70 each from memory.
Scott Wilkes
Goo Roo
Tasmania
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Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 09:52 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nice nice, i think you can ask them to supply them with different springs from new at no extra cost. They just swap them out.

Axle tramp....... dont talk to me about axle tramp :-( ive done EVERYTHING lol
Tom Richards
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nsw
V8

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 10:03 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

14f, 8 r is used in the usa

http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/Templates/frmTemplateM7.asp?SubFolderID=4061&SearchYN=N
Ben Lipman
Goo Roo
SA
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Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 04:30 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

14/8 sounds good for a daily driver. I have same or similar rates with the Tein Super streets. I would not like to have my HSDs on my daily. The rate are much stiffer, and would just get annoying I reckon.
Sebastian Grant
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Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 05:43 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What rate are your hsd's ben? Mine are 18f12r. They aren't very good on most roads but when you find a nice series of smooth bends it's hard to believe how well they make my soarer handle. Hit a decent bump mid corner and it's another story though.
Ben Lipman
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Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 07:16 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd have to go look it up in my notes to be exact, but I am pretty sure they are the same as yours. It is the generic rates they used to put on the Supras and Soarers. I think they copped a bit of flack about the streetability and then put softer springs as the default setting. Back when I bought mine every coilover you could buy was aimed at the budding drifter, except the Tein Super Streets.

I tried to find the rating of the stock stuff but cannot remember if I ever did. I have a table drawn up with all the coilovers and spring rates that were available when I was looking around.
John Stafford
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Qld.
Soarer UZZ31 GT-L V8

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Sunday, January 16, 2011 - 07:53 pm, by:  John Stafford (Johng12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a set of Teins (HA) fully adjustable for height and damper. The rears have been completely rebuilt and driven only 50klms and the fronts have been checked by Fulcrums and are in top condition. I want $800 if anyone is interested. If you ask Tein, which I did, they would sell you New Super streets to replace them for $2500 less any discount you could swing with them). This must be the best deal around. Cheers John
Vincent Chan
Tinkerer
nsw
v8

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Thursday, January 20, 2011 - 09:15 pm, by:  Vincent Chan (Vincent191) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scot, keep us informed on your new coils. I am looking at a changeover from airbags to coils. My car is for everyday driving on Sydney roads. I don't race or drift so comfort is more important.
Vincent Chan
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nsw
v8

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Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 11:13 pm, by:  Vincent Chan (Vincent191) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saturday 19th Feb 2011
Meet 9.30, leave 10 am
Meeting spot, Wilsons park
Corner Clyde St & Silverwater Rd


We'll head South from Silverwater all the way along Centenary/ King Georges Road and pick up the Princess Hwy. Turning left we drop into the first lot of twisties in the form of the National park. (possible meet up for southern people)

As we exit the park we'll head a little futher south and stop for a early lunch at the pub at Austinmer. After lunch we keep following the coast through Wollongong and onto Albion park.

From there its into the next lot of Twisties of Maquire Pass. A stop at the top for drinks and a Pie at the Robertson Pie shop. Then the Illawarra hwy back to the hume and home

The trip is 274km round trip back to Homebush so not to big, nice mix of scenary and twisties and fuel is cheap so come on out and make a day of it.
Sebastian Grant
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nsw
soarer TT

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Sunday, January 23, 2011 - 11:20 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wrong thread Vincent but thanks for the info. I'll see you there.
Vincent Chan
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nsw
v8

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Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 09:04 pm, by:  Vincent Chan (Vincent191) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have just ordered a set of 4 coilovers throu Ebay. The coilovers are made in Taiwan with dual springs and height and damper adjustable, at $930 including freight I will give them a go. They recommend for comfy everyday street use a spring rating (their standard springs) 8kgs front and 4kgs rear. You guys are talking kgs right?

My airbags are still good, so if anyone is interested they are welcome to have a test drive. They will be coming out in 3 or 4 weeks time. I have only 42,000 kms on my odometer. I want $600 for all 4 and I won't split them.
Vincent Chan
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nsw
v8

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Friday, March 11, 2011 - 09:57 pm, by:  Vincent Chan (Vincent191) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still waiting for my coilovers to arrive. In the meantime I read something about camber plates, do you need those with Soarer coilovers? The ones I ordered does not come standard with camber plates. They are optional extras. $120 a pair plus postage for camber plates with 2 bearings.
Vincent Chan
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nsw
v8

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Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 09:08 pm, by:  Vincent Chan (Vincent191) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Upload


For sale $950, brand new. Dual springs, height and damper adjustable.
Sebastian Grant
Goo Roo
nsw
soarer TT

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Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 09:52 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Vincent Chan wrote on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 09:04 pm:

at $930 including freight I will give them a go


Vincent Chan
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v8

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Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 10:15 pm, by:  Vincent Chan (Vincent191) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sebastian if you are interested I can bring them out to you. I am pasting that way next weekend.

Reason I am selling them is because my"ex-mechanic" mislead me. He told me my airbags needed replacing that why I bought the coilovers.

My new mechanic fixed the problem. It was a loose diff !!!!
Sebastian Grant
Goo Roo
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soarer TT

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Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 10:29 pm, by:  Sebastian Grant (Saabg) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No mate, I'm trying to work out why you are after a $20 profit from these or have I read it wrong?

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