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James Tims
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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 04:13 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys,

Took my soarer to the tyre man today to get new tyres, anyway he said he couldn't align it because there was no point seeing as the upper and lower ball joints on the passenger side were needing to be replaced which he said any mechanic should be able to do. I just want to know what sort of work is involved and what the part numbers are that I'll need. I replaced my front lower control arms a while back with Vlamhos bushes so there shouldn't be any replacing needed there.

Help a brother out so I can know what this guy is on about.

Thanks :-)
Paul Drane
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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 05:13 pm, by:  Paul Drane (Paulwd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ball joints are built into the control arms, you need too replace them if the joints are stuffed.

Get a second opinion though, just to make sure.
James Tims
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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 05:38 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I read into that. That really sucks. Will see if its possible to replace only the ball joints.
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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 05:56 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any idea on price or part numbers?
Paul Drane
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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 09:53 pm, by:  Paul Drane (Paulwd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am bored so I did this for you.

48630-29035 upper left toyodiy price $615
48069-29145 lower left toyodiy price $409

Amayama prices upper $505 plus post ex Japan
lower $678 plus post ex Japan
lower $214 plus post ex UAE.

5 day wait ex Japan
35 day wait ex UAE

Not hard to do a search James.
James Tims
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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 10:15 pm, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers Paul, I've always been bad at finding these parts no matter how easy it may be haha So Paul quick question I want this confirmed, can I use the Supra front lower control arms? and can I only just replace the ball joints or must I replace the whole lot?
Paul Drane
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 07:06 am, by:  Paul Drane (Paulwd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whole lot.

The Supra arms will fit but you need to check if they are same length from pivot point to the ball joint.

They probably are but some else may know.
Matt Petersen
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 07:13 am, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have jza80 lca's in my Soarer. They are identical except they have a stiffer bush compound and no bracket for air bag sensor.

Matt
Tom Richards
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 07:28 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

search on ebay.com for sc400 control arms


~$100 for uppers and $300 for lowers
Mike Beck
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 09:06 am, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

These are just common replacement parts.

Not sure what the big deal is.

Get it fixed and enjoy a better handling, safer car!
James Tims
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 10:36 am, by:  James Tims (Timzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah definitely, cheers for your help guys :-) So the Sc 400 upper and lower control arms will be compatible with the soarer?

Matt, I believe with the supra one's you can replace the individual parts is that correct?
Matt Petersen
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 10:43 am, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not that I am aware of. The ball joint piece looks identical to the soarer arms.

I could be wrong but haven't heard of replacement ball joints being available.

Matt.
Dan McColl
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 01:09 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SC400, Z30 Soarer and A80 Supra share the same arms.

Exceptions: A80 have different bushes as mentioned above. The UZZ31 has an extra bracket for the height sensor and the UZZ32 has a totally different arm which is not compatible with anything else.

The Balljoints in these arms are not replaceable to my knowledge.

You can find a used arm with good ball joints, and have the Vlamos bushes fitted to it, or buy new arms.

Check clublexus and whatnot as well. Stuff is available cheap ex USA and shipping isn't that much.
Michael Fuhrmann
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 01:32 pm, by:  Michael Fuhrmann (Tha_new_dude) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you need to replace the entire control arm if the ball joints are worn ?


Man im starting to really hate these cars !
Michael Fuhrmann
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 01:44 pm, by:  Michael Fuhrmann (Tha_new_dude) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.carpartsdiscount.com/auto/parts/93/lexus/sc400/control_arms/control_arm_front_upper_right .html?3593=46689
Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, June 18, 2012 - 06:53 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Michael Fuhrmann wrote on Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 01:32 pm:

you need to replace the entire control arm if the ball joints are worn ?




Pretty normal in modern cars. Actually I can't recall a car I've worked on in the last 10 years that has had a replaceable balljoint. Upside is they last a lot longer than the old serviceable kind, and don't require any maintenance.
Blake Gloyn
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Monday, June 18, 2012 - 11:00 am, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I recently replaced a lower arm(due to failed ball joint) on a friend's soarer, and the garage sent the ailing one away to an authorised repair place, and it came back a week or so later with a new ball joint properly installed. Legal in NZ, I'm told.
Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, June 18, 2012 - 11:04 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yup, some cleaver people have come up with ways of refurbishing them - but they aren't designed for it - no idea how successful the refurbishes are in the longer term.
Michael Fuhrmann
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Monday, June 18, 2012 - 06:43 pm, by:  Michael Fuhrmann (Tha_new_dude) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dunno about lasting longer, maybe longer than the older jap stuff ? Im used to working on older 30+ yo holden/fords and most of which have had the factory ball joints still in great condition, its easy to tell if they're the originals as they're riveted in and dont have grease nipples.

I have never had to replace one because it was worn out (not saying they dont wear out)though i usually change them anyway when doing the bushes as i like to strip the suspension arms ect and have them powder coated.

I know i have at least 1 worn joint in my soarer because i can hear it knocking just like the worn one in my 2007 hiace
Tom Richards
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Monday, June 18, 2012 - 09:22 pm, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the steering stops self centring after you turn a corner, the ball joints are stuffed and can"pull out" of the arm
Matthew Sharpe
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Tuesday, June 19, 2012 - 12:15 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Usually if the dust boots don't get compromised, they will more or less last forever. Of course the dust boots are rubber and will perish eventually - and the joint will flog out very quickly thereafter.

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