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Ben Meyer
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UZZ31 V8

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Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 02:23 pm, by:  Ben Meyer (Benmeyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys,

I'm looking to downgrade wheel sizes from 18s to 17s as I'm sick of forking out $200 every time I get a puncture, and, my wheels are ugly.

I've found some that are 5x114.3 PDC with an offset of 42.5mm (That's the bit i don't understand) but they have come off a FWD (Honda). Are any of these stats going to cause issues on my soarer?

Thanks in advance guys i appreciate the knowledge that pours out of this forum.
Ross Pesina
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Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 02:26 pm, by:  Ross Pesina (Ross79) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should fit fine. The PCD is correct and as long as the offset is 40mm or greater there shouldn't be any problems.
Ben Meyer
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Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 02:48 pm, by:  Ben Meyer (Benmeyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fantastic!

Thanks Ross.
Matthew Sharpe
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Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 06:57 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why not get some Toyota/Lexus wheels? Plenty of 17" factory wheels to choose from - Supra, Altezza, GS300 etc - and they all have the correct offset of +50, and the correct hubcentric hole size (better check that on the Honda wheels too, as you'll likely either end up needing hubcentric rings or have to get the wheels machined.)
Ben Meyer
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Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 12:50 pm, by:  Ben Meyer (Benmeyer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Matthew. I've already bought these wheels off the Honda. I did originally look for some toyota/lexus factory 17's but came up short. I'm not too bothered if they need a bit of work because they look pretty nice and only cost me $50.
Matthew Sharpe
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Friday, June 08, 2007 - 07:06 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Honda do make some nice factory wheels.

If you do need hubcentric rings, don't put it off get them straight away - it'll stop the wheels slopping around on the hubs (feels like they are out of balance) and it takes the pressure off the wheel studs.
Benny Gammelmark
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Friday, June 08, 2007 - 12:41 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And get metal ones if you need them. The plastic hub rings disintegrate over time, some of them as soon as a couple of years.
Liviu Velisarie
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Tuesday, August 07, 2012 - 10:59 pm, by:  Liviu Velisarie (Greenroadster) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What about the central bore? I think for SOARER's the number is 60,1mm. If I put a set of Mitsubishi GSR EVO R17 on my car, I will need center bore rings from 60,1mm to 67,1mm.

This is right?

PS-ET (offset) 38 is just fine btw...

I now run 225/45 R17 ET 38 front
and 235/40 R17 ET 38 rear.
Gavin Johnstone
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Monday, September 03, 2012 - 04:17 pm, by:  Gavin Johnstone (Zedrift) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is the lowest offset you can fit to front and rear ??
I have seen build threads on here with offsets as low as 0 and a 10.5-11.5"rim ..
I understand this offset would require gaurd rolling and some gaurd pulling as well but couldnt i expect to be able to run a +10-20 9.5-10.5 rim with just a strong gaurd rolling
Gavin Johnstone
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Monday, September 03, 2012 - 04:20 pm, by:  Gavin Johnstone (Zedrift) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is the thread i am talking about

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/45853/355999.html?1330330636
Ryan McDonough
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Monday, September 03, 2012 - 06:37 pm, by:  Ryan McDonough (Ryan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gavin, I run a 18x10 +20 on the rear and it required the rear guards to be rolled and narrow rubber to be able to lower the car back to what it was before the rims.

The front is 18x8 +23 (with spacers this is what they work out to be) and they required the inner guard to be trimmed and the front guards to be rolled to stop any scrub over large bumps at speed.

The next set in the shed, well.. they are going to require a lot more work.
Dan McColl
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Monday, September 03, 2012 - 10:05 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

18x10 +45 with 275 tyres just touches the stock factory unrolled guards. Doesn't rub, just touches.

Do the math from there.
Ali Saeed
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Monday, September 03, 2012 - 10:12 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp
Vinh Bui
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Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 11:36 am, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm running 20x10 +38 with 275 tyres on the rears and the tyres were hitting the guard when going over bumps. I ended up having to roll the guards a little.

Be aware that if you go with too low of an offset, you'll need to pull your guards so much that the paint may distort. If that doesn't bother you then by all means go for it.
Gavin Johnstone
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Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 12:48 pm, by:  Gavin Johnstone (Zedrift) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@ Dan .. It must be close running 18x10+45 with a 275 and no roll or lip work .. I am currently running 17x8.5+35 allround with a 235 on the back and a 225 on the front and the front is close to perfect but the back is rubbing the tyre wall when I hit dips if I run the car to low .. Easy fixed with a firm roll of the guard I should get a full 20-30mm of clearance which I want to translate to another
20-30mm of dish and a 10" or larger rim ..
Scott Vim
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Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 06:10 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Will the supra rears fit up front. 9.5 +50
Scott Vim
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Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 10:36 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

8x18 with +50 offset looks It's way too sunken for my liking. But the rears just sit in from the guards because its 9.5 and looks much better.
James Buchan
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Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 10:00 am, by:  James Buchan (Jrbuch) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll be running 18*8.5 on the front and 18*9.5 on the rear with a + 30 offset. I've rolled the guards just a little and it should look good.
Ben Lipman
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Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 07:32 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Scott Vim wrote on Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - 06:10 pm:

Will the supra rears fit up front. 9.5 +50




I think I tried this on the race car and there is some rubbing somewhere.

I will do it again on the weekend, as I am currently rethinking my rim and tyre choices on the race car. I want to go wider, and possibly 18 inch, seeing as all the sedan based categories are now running 18 inch rims, the tyres are likely to get cheaper.

Also wondering about widening the guards seeing as I am making my own.

Is it time we got together a consolidated wheel fitment thread? Something with facts and pics only, no opinions or comments allowed?
Scott Vim
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Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 08:39 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good idea.
Supra rears up front rub? Probably on the inside
Ali Saeed
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Friday, September 07, 2012 - 10:57 am, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I dont think you would want to run 9.5 in the front? Surely turn in would be dulled with a heavy rim + tyre
Ben Lipman
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Friday, September 07, 2012 - 09:03 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I want more rubber all round. I have 9 inch wide on the front of the street car, and 10.5 on the rear from memory. Different offsets obviously.

I am seriously considering using the street rims on the race car, except they are 18 inch, and not that light(Racing Sparco NSII). Would mean finding something to run on the street car, as fluro green rims would definitely get me into trouble, LOL.

Scott- Yeah, I think it might have been the sway bar.

I haven't searched: there might already be a wheel fitment thread on here. I found one on other forums, but they are full of negative feedback and opinions. I would like to see a list of wheels that work with stock brakes, and a list that work with BIG brakes. As I said, facts only: the wheel specs, pictures, any issues with rubbing or clearance.

It would be like a reference guide so you can see if a certain type of wheel clears brakes, fits inside the body work, and if it sits 'hellaflush', 'prostock', clean fit or needs flares or rolling etc.
Daniel Marshall
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Saturday, September 08, 2012 - 07:02 am, by:  Daniel Marshall (Ydass) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have 18*9.5 all round +20 offset
235/40 tyres Atr $100 tyres
No real problems
Good grip it seems
Spencer Cameron
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Saturday, September 08, 2012 - 02:41 pm, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've got 18/9.5 +45 fronts with 245 tyres and 18/10.5 +46 rears with 265 tyre.

Guards have been rolled but not as aggressively as might be possible. The way it is now, I should be able to fit 265s front and 285 rears.


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Ben Lipman
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Saturday, September 08, 2012 - 09:14 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Scott Vim wrote on Thursday, September 06, 2012 - 08:39 pm:

Supra rears up front rub? Probably on the inside




Actually they rub everywhere. I couldn't get them onto the hub. The ribbing on the rear of the rim fouls the caliper, badly. They would probably go on with standard TT or V8 brakes. (But if you had standard brakes, you probably wouldn't be looking to put 9.5 inch rims on the front!)

They also foul my Ikeya Formula UCA and Selby Sway bar with the suspension at full droop. They might clear the UCA at normal ride height, but no chance on the sway bar.

There is a different version of the Supra 17 inch rims that does not have this ribbing at the rear. I sold a pair a couple of years ago.

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