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Rory Braatvedt
Tinkerer
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 100
Reg: 06-2009
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Hi,
I noticed on a long trip in the weekend that my car was vibrating a fair amount (especially over 100km), so when i returned home i took it to the tyre shop and sure enough 3/4 of the wheels are slightly buckled. What kind of damage can i do driving like this? I have a set of factory wheels which i can put back on, but just curious because my lord the factory 15" wheels are foul. |
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
UZZ31 / ML320 CDI
Posts: 2080
Reg: 03-2007
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The tyres wear much faster, Soarers run smooth on factory 15s/16s |
Spencer Cameron
TryHard
NSW
JZZ30
Posts: 283
Reg: 04-2008
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To answer your question, no. Running slightly buckled rims wont hurt your Soarer. Probably better to get those wheels fixed though, depending on the cost I guess.
But what ever you do, don't put those god awful stock wheels back on your Soarer unless you can't avoid it :S |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 6796
Reg: 10-2005
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I don't agree with Spencer - excessive vibration will put extra strain on steering and suspension components and would certainly increase wear - at least long term. Also any source of vibration can loosen bolts etc (I once had a engine mount nut fall off a car after ignoring a vibration for too long!)
I'd get the wheels off and get them fixed or replaced ASAP, and avoid any long trips at speed until then. |
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria (The Nazi State)
Pretty Red Thing and The Black Rattler
Posts: 3704
Reg: 07-2005
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Do you have spigot rings fitted? |
Rory Braatvedt
TryHard
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 101
Reg: 06-2009
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No i don't have spigot rings fitted, how feasible is it to repair buckled rims? Keep in mind they are only BA falcon Xr6 mags so nothing spectacular |
Scott Vim
TryHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 381
Reg: 12-2010
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Xr6 a good fit on a soarer? Be interested to see what they look like....what kind of brake clearance have they got? |
Rory Braatvedt
TryHard
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 103
Reg: 06-2009
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Yeah they fit well considering the price - they are 17X8, here they are on my car wrapped in 235's, and spray painted black.
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Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
BMW E36 Coupe 1UZFE V8 340i
Posts: 5630
Reg: 11-2005
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Deary me!
Running on wheels that are buckled is insane to me, they are one of the most important parts of the car, especially from a safety aspect.
Coupled without running spacer ringer you're putting excessive load on the wheel studs which are designed to only hold the wheel on the hub, the load through the wheel is meant to be transfered through the hub by the wheel resting flush with the center ring on the hub, this is why you should use hub spigot rings if the wheels fitted have a larger bore.
If you neglect to fix the problem and push it too hard, without warning your wheels going to break off in a bend or over a pot hole! This is the result you can expect:
Just think if that happens on the motorway or on the open road, you would put other peoples lives at risk & you own
Get it fixed... |
Rory Braatvedt
TryHard
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 104
Reg: 06-2009
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I absolutely agree with you, that's why as soon as i found out they were buckled i put my stock 15' wheels back on - then came on here to investigate! Thanks for the advice anyway. |
Spencer Cameron
TryHard
NSW
JZZ30
Posts: 284
Reg: 04-2008
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If spigot rings were load bearing they wouldn't make them out of plastic.. That second pic looks to me like the last person to put that wheel on didn't do the nuts up right. Eventually the wheel became lose enough to allow water to seep in between the disc and the wheel and produce those corroded stains on the disc.
Whoops.. |
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
UZZ31 / ML320 CDI
Posts: 2086
Reg: 03-2007
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http://planetsoarer.com/offset/studs.htm |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 6799
Reg: 10-2005
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The wheel spigots only purposes are to centre the wheel and bear the load.
The studs only purpose is to hold the wheel on the hub, and is are not designed to be load bearing at all.
Plastic spigot rings are typically made out of low compression acrylics that do a perfectly serviceable job of transferring loads to the hub. |
Rory Braatvedt
TryHard
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 105
Reg: 06-2009
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Hey guys just an update, looking to buy some new wheels and have happened across some generously priced 17' AU Falcon Tickford wheels, as below. Has anyone got a photo of what these look like on a Soarer?
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Scott Vim
TryHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 389
Reg: 12-2010
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What's the offset and width of the rim? |
Rory Braatvedt
TryHard
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 106
Reg: 06-2009
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17X8 +36p |
Scott Vim
TryHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 390
Reg: 12-2010
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Same offset e as the black rims? They look good.} |
Rory Braatvedt
TryHard
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 107
Reg: 06-2009
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Yeah mate, the black rims are from an Xr6, the chrome looking ones i posted above are from an Xr8. So basically the same! Just wanting to know if anyone has a pic of them on a Soarer? |
Rory Braatvedt
TryHard
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 108
Reg: 06-2009
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Well, i didn't end up getting the tickfords. I really wanted 17X9 on the rear and they were by 8 - so i picked these up for a measly $400! I think it looks great
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Scott Vim
TryHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 399
Reg: 12-2010
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What are they? Amazing! |
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
BMW E36 Coupe 1UZFE V8 340i
Posts: 5635
Reg: 11-2005
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I think they work quite well actually
A fairly simple shape that tie in with the soarers simple body style.
That said, they aren't too dissimilar to the factory 18" alloys on the UZZ40 soarers. Although yours are still better. |
Rory Braatvedt
TryHard
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 109
Reg: 06-2009
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Cheers Scott!
They are called 'Sauber' made in Japan, 17X8 and 17X9, nice amount of dish, not too gangster. Not sure on the offset. They are basically one of the many AMG style rip-offs that Mercedes used to use.
For me, it's the perfect wheel for the Soarer, not too outrageous but enough to look clean. |
Scott Vim
TryHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 400
Reg: 12-2010
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Where did you find them? |
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 6802
Reg: 10-2005
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Very nice - should be pretty tough too being Japanese. |
Scott Vim
TryHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 401
Reg: 12-2010
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Oh and what offset are they cause they sit pretty well in that pic. |
Rory Braatvedt
TryHard
North Island
Soarer v8
Posts: 110
Reg: 06-2009
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I found them on trademe - kind of like ebay for New Zealand. Now idea on the offset, how would it be written on the wheel? |
Scott Vim
TryHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 402
Reg: 12-2010
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Inside of the rim can't really see with the wheel on. Usually say et for offset. |
Costa Tsimiklis
Goo Roo
Victoria
386.2 rwkw the old T51S setup - New Setup HKS T51R SPL -Going for 450rwkw on Pump Gas!
Posts: 2198
Reg: 07-2008
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Buckled rims and wheels out of balance will eventually chew out the wheel bearings over time.
In addition, you may get a shimmy / wobble at certain speeds. |
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