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Scott Wilkes
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Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 08:05 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Searching for some swaybars for the soarer, currently have a white line bar in the back but dosnt seem all that much improvement on the factory swaybar. Searching for the stiffest I can find. Any help would be much appreciated
Allan Langford
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Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 09:16 am, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

something is wrong would be my guess as the whiteline bars are a fairly dramatic change!

you can get a custom bar made but too stiff and you will just be lifting the inside wheel everywhere
Scott Wilkes
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Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 06:20 pm, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nothing wrong, everything is rosejointed in the rear end a rebushed. It's not as stiff as I would like
Spencer Cameron
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Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 10:07 pm, by:  Spencer Cameron (Switchio) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In a rear wheel drive car replacing the front swaybar is supposed to have more of an impact. Your profile says your running King springs over the standard TEMS shocks. I'm no expert on the TEMS system, but dosent it adjust the dampers to suppress body roll, that would kind of make the swaybar more or less redundant.

Anyway, if you want better handling, your best bet is to start with a good set of coilovers. Well setup springs and dampers do heaps more to control body roll than swaybars.
Matt Newman
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Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 11:19 pm, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you could always swap your rear sub frame mounts for supra ones and a run a supra swaybar
Scott Wilkes
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Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 05:49 am, by:  Scott Wilkes (Scottywilkes) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm running Bc coilovers mate. Havnt touched my profile for years.

I havnt had the chance to get a good front swaybar yet so might start there. I think alot of my movement in the back end is from the subframe moving around, I have the superpro drift pineapples in the diff a subframe mounts but I don't think there that effective as still have issues with tramp bad. Wanting to sort these issues out before its tune in a couple weeks cause 350+rwkw is going to take its toll on parts
Ben Lipman
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Monday, November 12, 2012 - 02:09 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Spencer Cameron wrote on Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 10:07 pm:

In a rear wheel drive car replacing the front swaybar is supposed to have more of an impact




Correct. There is a school of thought in racing circles that rear sway bars do more harm than good in a rear wheel drive chassis. It is something I aim to delve into one day when the car is running consistently on the track.

Most people replace front and rear bars at the same time. If you had to do them in priotity order, then front takes precedence over the rear.


Spencer Cameron wrote on Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 10:07 pm:

Well setup springs and dampers do heaps more to control body roll than swaybars.




Wrong. Sway bars, or anti roll bars, are designed specifically to control what is commonly described as body roll. By running sway bars you can select a spring and damper rate that best supports the tyres contact patch on the road, and use a sway bar to effectively add stiffness to the corner that needs it under cornering loads. Sway bars are usually the most powerful suspension change you can make to an otherwise standard setup.


Matt Newman wrote on Saturday, November 10, 2012 - 11:19 pm:

you could always swap your rear sub frame mounts for supra ones and a run a supra swaybar




Why? Supra bars are no stiffer. Unless you want to use a stiffer aftermarket bar like the Titan one.
Matt Newman
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Monday, November 12, 2012 - 10:28 am, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah Ben that's what i meant because the supra after market rear bars are bigger than the 22mm offered on the soarer
Ben Lipman
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 02:31 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Got it.

There is also supposed to be some advantage to the Supra style mounts, but I cant remember what it was. More efficient maybe?
Matt Newman
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Tuesday, November 13, 2012 - 12:37 pm, by:  Matt Newman (Soarersrock) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe it's like most of the supra vs soarer parts in that the compound is just a bit firmer
Costa Tsimiklis
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Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 04:35 pm, by:  Costa Tsimiklis (Driftshop) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The ultimate off shelf rear swaybar setup would be a set of my Alloy Bushes and running a whiteline Supra Sway Bar at the stiffest setting.

Reason being - the lever length of the Supra Swaybar, vs the Soarer swaybar, is SHORTER - thus more torque is required for it to twist for each mm, therefore the swaybar is automatically stiffer by design.

It's a worthwhile upgrade considering the swaybar on the soarer is mounted to the boot floor rather than the subframe.

The reason for the Supra swaybar re-design is due to the fuel tank in the supra being in the way of where a soarer swaybar would normally mount to.

Also keep in mind that the soarer and supra swaybars cand tend to FLIP when installed incorrectly, causing the links to dislocate and thus not be effective and transferring the load into the swaybar.

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