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Andrew Brown
Tinkerer
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Reg: 10-2012

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Saturday, March 02, 2013 - 11:22 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if there's any way to make the air suspension raise or lower quicker than stock?

I was watching 'sc's gone wild' on YouTube and absolutely love how the white soarer lowers itself so quickly
Joshua Rao
Goo Roo
WA
TT (for sale $5.2k), 97 Blk UZZ31, 97 JZZ30 vvti turbo white manual, 96 vvti turbo manual, Legnum VR4, MR2 sw20, Alfa 156

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 01:43 am, by:  Joshua Rao (Soaren1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is that frame sped up? Or aftermarket air bag kit?
Andrew Brown
Tinkerer
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 04:50 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know, I was kind of hoping it was a simple thing like a bigger compressor but I honestly have no clue how they would have done it
Michael James
TryHard
Queensland
V8 UZZ31 Limited

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 10:08 am, by:  Michael James (Wildwizard) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LHD so not a UZZ31 so whatever it has for suspension has nothing to do with what a UZZ31 has
Andrew Brown
Tinkerer
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 10:23 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's the reason a lhd model would be different suspension-wise?
Ian Johnston
Goo Roo
South Australia
1995 UZZ31, BA XR6Turbo Ute. 2007 VE GTS.

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 10:55 am, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No airbag models in America. All coils. We get the better cars in some ways to them, except the VVTI V8
Andrew Brown
Tinkerer
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 11:12 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh right, well maybe it is an aftermarket airbag kit then that or hydraulics

But surely there's a way to make the stock airbag system pump/drain faster?
Ian Johnston
Goo Roo
South Australia
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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 11:18 am, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is there any reason you want to do this?? Bar wank factor? And I am not trying to be rude.
Andrew Brown
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NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 11:34 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well apart from the wank factor haha I have a high driveway and I like driving around fairly low, so raising the suspension to get into my driveway takes a while
Ian Johnston
Goo Roo
South Australia
1995 UZZ31, BA XR6Turbo Ute. 2007 VE GTS.

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 01:35 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ha ha, we had to get our driveway remodelled so our daughter could get her Clubsport up without dragging its bum. Best of luck.
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 03:12 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's so hard to remember to switch it up 2 minutes before you arrive at the driveway?
Andrew Brown
Tinkerer
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Sunday, March 03, 2013 - 04:30 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well it sure sucks when you forget, I know that..

Does no one seriously know a way?
Allan Langford
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31

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Monday, March 04, 2013 - 10:02 am, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Planing to add a small tank in mine (capped length of 120mm pvc thick wall pipe) and run 6mm lines to each strut with a one way valves and a solenoid.

Then tee the factory connection back in, should allow for a "fast up" button for getting over speed humps and stuff then it will slowly settle back down to stock hight via the factory valves.
Ian Johnston
Goo Roo
South Australia
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Monday, March 04, 2013 - 02:14 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would be looking at something stronger than PVC pipe Go to a truck wrecker and try and get an aluminium air tank. A lot of the Euro trucks use them in various sizes.
Allan Langford
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31

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Monday, March 04, 2013 - 03:34 pm, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thick wall stuff will be no problem at all.. have a look at the factory "air tank" it's a flimsy plastic ball!
Dave van Staveren
TryHard
South Australia
Soarer Limited coupe Supercharged V8

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Monday, April 22, 2013 - 03:43 pm, by:  Dave van Staveren (Deveous) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Keep us informed if you manage to get a workable faster travel response please Allan. Mine is lower than standard height, but not ridiculously low, and on a few occasions i have had to stop and wait for suspension to raise when i have come across a large speed hump or en-even surface i didnt want to traverse. I have looked for a "quick fix" (pun intended) without any luck and even looked at after market suspension, but the cost is stupid.
Andrew Brown
TryHard
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Monday, April 22, 2013 - 04:02 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yea im still really interested in this as well, would be great to have fast up AND down
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
UZZ31 / ML320 CDI

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Monday, April 22, 2013 - 09:50 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dropping it down fast would be quite easy with a couple of air solenoids (have you ever pulled off a air line),its immediate, but going up fast would be a lot harder , our Merc has "airmatic" it consists of a big compressor and two large air tanks and its only a bit faster than the UZZ31.But a larger tank would be the first step.
Dave van Staveren
TryHard
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Tuesday, April 23, 2013 - 12:24 am, by:  Dave van Staveren (Deveous) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah i have, pulled the wrong line when changing a dead shock. There must be a compressor that could replace the original that has a bit more oomph, but fitting into the same space could be an issue (I have intercooler pipes running through there also now)... Just be a matter of some larger lines after that... Sounds so simple lol
Andrew Brown
TryHard
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Tuesday, April 23, 2013 - 02:04 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok so larger tank, lines and compressor.. anyone tried this already? Or who wants to be the guinea pig and go first?
Allan Langford
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31

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Tuesday, April 23, 2013 - 10:01 am, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will probably start on this when I part the airbags off the factory struts and put them on some JZA80 koni's in the next few weeks!
Dave Rose
Goo Roo
wa
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Tuesday, April 23, 2013 - 12:44 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are going to remove the airbags and fit them on some Konis !!wow
Allan Langford
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31

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Tuesday, April 23, 2013 - 02:52 pm, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yep, best compromise I can come up with for a street driven car that will see the track, bit of machine work but should be do-able

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