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Scott Vim
TryHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 440 Reg: 12-2010
| Hey guys got a problem with the front passenger side too much camber. I have airbag suspension. All the other wheels are set perfectly but the passenger side maxed out is running about 2 degrees negative. Tried changing the bushes and still has the same problem. It adjusts fine so if I was to raise the car it would be fine. Just want lower then stock height without the camber. Any ideas why max adjustment is still too far in the negative? |
Paul Drane
Goo Roo QLD V8 Limited
Posts: 1239 Reg: 07-2005
| maybe a toe in problem, not enough or too much. |
Scott Vim
TryHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 444 Reg: 12-2010
| Looking at the wheel it is very obvious that its running too much negative camber. Maybe 2.5 degrees. |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 869 Reg: 12-2010
| OK changed upper control arm because tyre shop said the ball joint looked bent but still -2.5 degree camber. I think what they saw was just a symptom of having the camber and not the cause. |
Allan Langford
Goo Roo Vic UZZ31
Posts: 1225 Reg: 05-2010
| quality photos with the wheels off? might be able to spot something |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 870 Reg: 12-2010
| OK Allan. I'll get you the shots of the charger as well. But can't upload from my phone on soarer central. |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 871 Reg: 12-2010
| I'll get some more pics with the wheel off later I'll have to fix my comp on Sunday. |
Tom Richards
Goo Roo nsw V8
Posts: 1877 Reg: 08-2005
| apart from the 2 control arms and a bent "chassis" what else can cause it?? |
Matt Newman
DieHard QLD soarer tt
Posts: 868 Reg: 11-2007
| whats the lower ball joint look like? |
Tom Richards
Goo Roo nsw V8
Posts: 1878 Reg: 08-2005
| when the lower ball joint starts to fail, the steering will not self centre after you turn a corner, you have to pull it back with the steering wheel. A very strange feeling/. |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 872 Reg: 12-2010
| The car drives and handles fine. Chews Tyres like popcorn though. |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 874 Reg: 12-2010
| Hope its not a bent chaises. That will really ruin my day. |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 876 Reg: 12-2010
|
This is the good side. |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 877 Reg: 12-2010
|
Good side as well |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 878 Reg: 12-2010
|
One more of the good side. |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 879 Reg: 12-2010
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Bad side |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 880 Reg: 12-2010
| Second opinion is the steering knuckle where the uca bolts onto is bent. |
Ian Johnston
Goo Roo South Australia 1995 UZZ31, BA XR6Turbo Ute. 2007 VE GTS.
Posts: 2028 Reg: 07-2005
| Has the car ever been in an accident? Maybe chassis bent in on that side. |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 881 Reg: 12-2010
| Not to my knowledge. I've had the car for a few years. The last owner put a charger on it and speed limit remover (track days im guessing) so its possible. I think there would be some visible signs of such though. |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 882 Reg: 12-2010
| Could have smashed a gutter. But not since I've had it. This problem existed when I bought it I am assuming. |
Ben Lipman
Goo Roo SA Soarer TT manual, plus TT track car, plus a spare shell
Posts: 3775 Reg: 04-2006
| Scott, are you looking to get rid of neg camber, or are you trying to get more camber? If you are trying to get rid of neg camber I would check: 1.that all your bushes are good. If the LCA bushes are worn, the weight of the car will push the lower part of the hub out giving additional neg camber. It will also play havoc with toe settings which will chew tyres. Worn bushes on the UCA could allow the top of the hub to lean in also causing camber. 2. chassis suspension mounting points for any signs of damage or repair. 3. the hub/upright itself for any signs of damage or repair. Due to the double wishbone design of the Soarer there are only the upper and lower control arms (wishbones) plus the tie rod that control the positioning of the wheel. Therefore either the upper or lower arm, or its mounts has to be the source of the problem. Hubs are extremely strong so it is unlikely that it has been bent. |
Allan Langford
Goo Roo Vic UZZ31
Posts: 1228 Reg: 05-2010
| can you get photos of the lower arm? your shocker being stuffed is not going to help tire wear but as Ben said check all bushes and also check the wheel bearings for play |
Scott Vim
DieHard Vic Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)
Posts: 883 Reg: 12-2010
| New airbags on fronts. New bushes in the LCA. Trying to get rid of camber. All 3 wheels running -0.3 camber but front left is maxed out on the camber ssettings and still is at -2.5 camber. Tyre bloke thought the actually mounting point on the wheel hub looked bent up which means that UCA brings the top of the arm in to bolt into it therefore bringing the top of wheel in (negative camber). Is this possible/likely? |
Ben Lipman
Goo Roo SA Soarer TT manual, plus TT track car, plus a spare shell
Posts: 3777 Reg: 04-2006
| Yes it is possible. You will need to accurately measure the hub and compare to the other side to rule it out of confirm. Get some verniers, or be very careful with a steel rule and measure the distance from the top mount to the disc face, or back to the suspension pivot and compare to the other side. |
Allan Langford
Goo Roo Vic UZZ31
Posts: 1229 Reg: 05-2010
| What part of Melbourne are you in Scott? |