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Murray Lund
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 06:24 am, by:  Murray Lund (Murray) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did a trip to Dubbo and return on the w/e from Sydney. Noticed quite an annoying shudder in the steering wheel over stretches of road surface in poor condition. On good surfaces there is no vibration at all. I have replaced the lower suspension bushes with the rubber Vlamos bushes, also the roll bar bushes, and the upper steering rack bush (also supplied by Vlamos). The car is running 235/45/17 tyres at 36 psi cold and has had a wheel alignment recently. Any thoughts on where I should be looking to correct this?
Thanks
Benny Gammelmark
Goo Roo
NSW
V8 UZZ31

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 07:16 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like shocks. They DO get worn. Mine has started doing it a bit as well.
New shocks on a '31 is about $1000 a pop (each).
Dan McColl
DieHard
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 10:50 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I did read somewhere, it may have been the alsc archives, that you can get the '31 shocks rebuilt.

It doesn't fix the airbags if they're cactus, and I don't know if it was successful, but it may be a thought.
Kris Blackler
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WA
V8 LTD

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Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 11:28 pm, by:  Kris Blackler (Sleekcar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have the same problem and have been pointed in the same direction. i have aftermarket wheels and the wheel does not fit on nice and snug like it should so i got spigot rings/centering caps and around town driving has improved alot. am yet to try the dodgy country roads. mechanic said rings set me back $6 and freight was $16. if yo have the same situation it may be worth looking at this possibillity before forking out $4000 on new shockies.
Murray Lund
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NSW
V8

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Sunday, March 19, 2006 - 09:36 pm, by:  Murray Lund (Murray) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have spiggot rings already. I was looking at the steering column today - there seems to be some significant up and down movement in the column where it passes through the firewall. Not sure if this is significant.
Kris Blackler
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WA
V8 LTD

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Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 04:02 pm, by:  Kris Blackler (Sleekcar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

murray it appears my problem hasn't gone away either. so when you do find the fix to your problem let us know.
Murray Lund
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NSW
V8

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Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 04:29 pm, by:  Murray Lund (Murray) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kris,
I replaced the other bush on the steering rack (the large one that goes right around the tube of the rack), and this seems to have made an improvement round town. I haven't been out of town with it yet though, so not sure how it will feel on country roads.
Murray
Lindsey Swan
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QLD
GTT-L

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Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 03:13 pm, by:  Lindsey Swan (Banzaibattlecrazzzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just following up on this thread.

I have had the following replaced:
- VFT upper and lower front
- VFT steering rack + large rack grommet
- Sway bar bushes

I still have the same problem of a shuddering steering wheel. I am still running original shocks but with lowered springs.

I am going to pedders tomorrow for a 28 point check..

I am assuming its the suspension... otherwise its the control arms or tyres...
Benny Gammelmark
Goo Roo
NSW
V8 UZZ31

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Thursday, May 25, 2006 - 06:18 pm, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or the wheels.

Pedders can check that too.
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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Sunday, May 28, 2006 - 01:02 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Possibly out of balance or out of round tyres, or tyres that are worn funny can cause this.
Paul Christian
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WA
Soarer JZZ31

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Friday, July 28, 2006 - 12:32 am, by:  Paul Christian (Paul_christian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a balance a couple of days ago and the difference is unbelievable. An alignment by itself isn't enough to fix the shuddering problem. I was ready to replace the bushes and maybe shocks but a simple balance for about 10 bucks a tyre (also 17s) was all it took.
Murray Lund
TryHard
NSW
V8

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Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 08:01 pm, by:  Murray Lund (Murray) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I finally got round to solving my steering wheel shudder over rough surfaces. Upon examination the LHF shock was leaking fluid. It was also significantly softer than the RH side which had been replaced 2 years ago after the air bag started leaking. The shock also made a wheezing sound when the suspension was bounced up and down. Installed a new strut today and problem solved.
Adam Foster
TryHard
SA
SC400 Limited GT

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Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 10:01 pm, by:  Adam Foster (Adam) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

check out mv automatics aswell i know they do aftermarket airbag suspension kits for the 31's when i was in the market for a new set
Brett Moloney
TryHard
Queensland
UZZ31

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Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 04:10 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Murray what is a new shock worth?
Murray Lund
TryHard
NSW
V8

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Monday, January 15, 2007 - 04:59 am, by:  Murray Lund (Murray) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brett,
Castle Hill Toyota in Sydney has UZZ31 Soarer struts for $885. Seems about the going rate. (James Sloane, they guy who works there and looks after the grey import side of things, says the list price is more like $1300) Pricey, but money well spent.
David Hatton
Tinkerer
ACT
JZZ30 B[itza]-Spec

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Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 12:10 pm, by:  David Hatton (Djhatton) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

800-1300ea! wow! i had no idea they cost that much! that sort of cash will get you some really REALLY nice fully adjustable, custom-valved mono-tube coilovers. drummond, bilstein, whiteline, koni... hell probably even ohlins or jrz shocks... would be available at that cash and i am prepared to bet that they'd outperform the standard air struts no problems.... of course you'll do away with the cool airbag features but my god would your car handle!!!! they wouldn't necessarily be jiggly, stiff or uncomfortable contrary to what is usually associated with "coilovers".

perhaps worth considering???

2c

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Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
Active V8 and a Factory Manual XF.

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 11:40 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It depends on the result you're chasing, David, as to weather airbags or coil overs would suit your purposes.

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