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Ryan Rankovic
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Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 05:32 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Hey guys,

for the past week or so, once i reach 57km/hr i get a howling/ whirring noise from the rear. This noise gets louder as speed increases and gets quite annoying and drony at around 100km/hr.

When I go around right hand bend, the noise gets louder, when I go around a left hand bend, the noise dissapears. When I hit a bump and the car bounces a bit, the noise dissapears also.

I thought it might have been a camber or alignment problem so I took it to bob jane and they said it was all good, and that it might be my dif making the noise. But that doesnt make much sense.

So, anyone know what might be up with my car?
I figured this section would be suitable to post in.

Thanks

Ryan
Justin Hughes
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V8 LTD

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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 05:47 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Diff or Wheel Bearing. If Bob Jane reckon all is well then I'd be saying "Hello LSD Action" !!!!
Ryan Rankovic
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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 05:58 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
hmmmmm

what kind of place would be best to take it to for a proper diagnosis? pedders in case its a wheel bearing?
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria
UZZ-32 V8 Soarer #138

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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:08 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Sounds like a wheel bearing....
Ryan Rankovic
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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:21 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
eep just did some searching and wheel bearings seem expensive... can pedders diagnose if its wheel bearings or not?
Justin Hughes
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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:31 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Ryan - go out and do a real tight turn in the car, like you are doing a U-Turn in a narrow street.
If the ass end feels jumpy and kind of 'loose' then it is the diff.
If the car just makes big noise but but you feel no serious vibration from the rear, then it will be a Bearing.
Ryan Rankovic
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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:44 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
well i did some u - turns today and the ass wasnt jumpy, was nice and smooth. was only when doing right hand turns it got worse...

hmmm thanks for the replies, Justin and Dan...

are S & L cars up for the job? is there a place you recommend to get the bearings from?
Adam Foster
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SA
SC400 Limited GT

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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 08:58 pm, by:  Adam Foster (Adam) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
i will go with diff after having the same problem and just having to replace the diff, if it were wheel bearings it wouldnt make a howling noise.
Justin Hughes
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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:10 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I would've described my last "exhausted" bearings final screams for mercy as Howling
Dan McColl
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Victoria
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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 09:54 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Just keep driving till something lets go.

If it's the diff then you will roll slowly to a halt.

If it's a wheel bearing you will come to a halt in a screaming cloud of dust and sparks as your wheel rolls slowly past, coming to a stop further down the road.

And yes, I have seen this happen to some cocky's in a HQ ute on the calder highway, just south of faraday.
Ryan Rankovic
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 Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 10:07 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
im not going to do either of those Dan, you goon!

will take to pedders tomorrow, and a diff specialist on friday

i kind of hope its the diff... then i can get some LSD as Justin suggested
Ryan Rankovic
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 Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 02:54 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
ok, i went to pedders, and they say it sounds EXACTLY like a stuffed bearing. however they dont deal with bearings.

Now i searched here and through the archive, and came up with this:

Actual bearing part number is
Brand: Koyo (same as the one I found on my car )
PN: DAC4380A

Can someone recommend a place in Melb that sells bearings? And a place that could fit it?

Thanks
Ryan Rankovic
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 Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:12 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Got a price for a bearing kit from Bearing Wholesalers.... $196 each.

Then I rang S&L cars and they said to just get a 2nd hand wheel hub as when the bearing goes, it causes damage to the hub.

hmmm

What would you guys do?
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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 Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:17 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
There is probably better advice around, but I would be tempted to get the s/h hub AND fit a new bearing to it.
Justin Hughes
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 Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:17 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Take it to S+LC without delay. Sign the disclaimer and they'll loan you the PRIUS for the day.
While your there you can drool over Craig Dean's awesome Mustang which they are prepping for Targa Tasmania - STIFFY !!!
Justin Hughes
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 Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:18 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
3:17 SNAP !!!!
Ryan Rankovic
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 Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 03:40 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
hmmm Peter thats what I was thinking... is there a difference between a left and right hub? Or are they the same?

oooh Prius eh... wonder how much damage I can do to that thing
Shaun Stephenson
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Vic
Jzz30 TT

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 Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:44 pm, by:  Shaun Stephenson (Neonasty) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I think a bearing in the front drivers side of my Soarer has gone too.

It pulls slightly right and when I reverse and turn tightly it grinds, sounds a bit scarey.

I jacked it up and pulled off the wheel and it spins smoothly, but I guess no load on it it will seem OK.

Any hints?
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
3.0 GT

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 Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 06:34 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Reversing issues like that are often a sign of worn or perished bushes.
Ryan Rankovic
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Victoria
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 Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 02:32 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
just got a new Koyo DAC4380A bearing for $62

Does $140 sound reasonable for a mechanic to remove the old and fit the new?
Shaun Stephenson
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 Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:55 am, by:  Shaun Stephenson (Neonasty) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Matt: WOW I hope its that. The drivers front wheel is WAY out of alignment too. Think I might take it to someone before I go replacing bearings what are OK.

Thanks

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