Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 08:00 pm, by: Paul Irwin(Rival)
Yep what peter said.
They should be able to "twist" freely inside the bush.
When you get a new set from Toyota you will also see that they have a layer of material between the rubber and where the sway bar sits to assist this.
The idea of the sway bar is to transfer the movement on one side of the car to the other side.
So say you turn hard left and therefore all the weight shifts to the right side of the car (unless you have a 32 you lucky bastards). So this weight shift compresses the suspension on the right side of the car. this compression in the suspension also twists the sway bar on the right side of the car and this is transferred to the left side causing the suspension on the left to also compress.
This means the car will have less body roll when turning as it more "squats" rather than "leans".
Obviously the car still leans because of the torque in the sway bar causing it to twist along its length. This is why aftermarket solid sway bars often work better than the stock ones as they have more torsional rigidity.
So, coming back to the bushes, you want them to offer as little resistance to this twisting as possible to maximise the amount of torsion transferred to the left side of the car.
Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 06:21 am, by: Anish Varsani(Yomama)
Thanks. It's going to take 2-3 weeks to get new ones from toyota so in the mean time I'll grease the existing ones with rubber grease to stop the creaking noise.
Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 08:30 pm, by: Paul Irwin(Rival)
2-3 weeks?
try calling Penrith Toyota, Tory Toyota (Albion Park), and Melbourne Toyota.
my guess is Penrith will have them in stock.
i got mine from Tory Toyota overnight. i might even still have them in the garage (as i now have Whiteline swaybars and just used the bushes that came with that).
also i had a chronic creaking problem before i changed the sway bars and it ended up not being the swaybars at all (even though it stopped for a few days after greasing them), it was the bushes on the coilovers were that shot it was creaking the metal on metal.
Friday, August 25, 2006 - 05:50 am, by: Anish Varsani(Yomama)
Already ordered genuine ones. The grease seems to have done the trick. The car feels more stable on corners now. I think I'll just hold onto the new bushes until the front ones start to sqeak again.
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 12:26 pm, by: Paul Irwin(Rival)
what settings does everyone have their whiteline swaybars at (assuming you have the adjustable ones?) i found it bloody hard to even get the front one on to the hardest setting (the connector could hardly reach), and the rears are on the middle setting.
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 03:19 pm, by: Lindsey Swan(Banzaibattlecrazzzy)
How much were these sway bars?
and how much does it improve handling?...
i know benny said it makes it less 'rolly'.. but it is only for hardcore cornering at fast speeds? or would someone notice it even when cornering at like 50-60kmph?
Thursday, September 14, 2006 - 12:54 pm, by: Toan Nguyen(Soarer_gt)
Swaybar effectiveness depends on the corner as well as speed. It's like a balancing bar. The tighter the corner, the more it works with you (trys to flatten the car out).
I upgraded mine with whiteline adjustables and it was probably one of the better upgrades I did. (next to small steering wheel and braces).
Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 02:35 pm, by: Carl Johnson(Carlos)
Lindsey, I 2nd what Toan says, Whiteline sways (adjustable) are an excellent investment however on moderate corners at lower speeds you can not feel any differance over OEM. Short tight corners at mod-high speed are a joy as are long sweepers at high speed. If you're thinking about doing em, think no longer you won't regret it....also I've noticed the pricing (Whiteline wholesale & retail) has steadily crept up over the last 18 months. The longer you wait the more you'll pay. Contact Neil Griffiths he'll fix you up.
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