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Drew Hiron
TryHard
Queensland
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 09:50 am, by:  Drew Hiron (Frag) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys, i hope this is in the correct section.


I have a 91 Soarer TT, only mods being an FMIC, Cat-back exhaust, a BFI & running a shade over 10psi (no boost controller).

The problem with it is I can-not stall the engine up anything over roughly 2100rpm, the wheels start spinning and thats that. My boost gauge at best reads about 1 PSI at these RPM's and as such, i get fairly slow 1/4 mile times with terrible 60ft's.

My rear tyres are 235/45/17, Dunlop Le Mans LM702 with a lot of tread still left.

Please can anyone tell me if its possible to adjust the stall at all? OR am i just stuck with this until i eventually go down the Big Single, built tranny path?


Thanks
Drew
Tim Appleton
DieHard
QLD
UZZ31

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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:04 am, by:  Tim Appleton (Timbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you checked your rear brakes? You may get a touch more out of the stall if you can get more brake bias on the rear. But I doubt you'll get much.

I think your only option is a new stally. Probably want a shift kit as well. I'm sure one of the TT guys will have a better idea though.
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest

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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:09 am, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wheel spinning at 2100 on standard stally means your rear brakes are rubbish. Try stalling with both handbrake and footbrake applied and see what happens. I have this problem as well after I changed brake pads were I wheel spin over 3200rpm, and using both brakes is the way around it or you have to install biasing valve.
Drew Hiron
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Soarer TT

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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 10:14 am, by:  Drew Hiron (Frag) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ahhh the brakes!! Hehe, i never actually thought about them.

I will look into that today on my track and see how she goes, thanks very much Ben & Tim.
Drew Hiron
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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 11:10 am, by:  Drew Hiron (Frag) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well guys you were spot on, it was/is my rear brakes. I tried it with the handbrake, managed to stall it up to 2500rpm with ease!

Thankyou both very much!

I've had the car for 2 years now, maybe it is time to replace both front and rear pads?
Cihan Aday
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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:32 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Probably drew :-)
Get some toyota originals in there, many of the guys on these forums recommend them.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 05:51 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Or Lucas if you want more grip.
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 07:02 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So what times are you running Drew?>

And yeah, Get your rear brakes machined and fit new pads:-)
Joshua White
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Qld
SC400 GT V8 Supercharged

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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 07:48 pm, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey guys, i have the superchaged v8 with the TT brake system but it'll get to 1800rpm and get spin so the charger isn't within its best area so its a lil sluggish till it gets going. will these brake ideas apply to me as well?!
Joshua White
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Qld
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Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 07:48 pm, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oops supercharged*
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
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Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 09:16 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still might have problems - the car is possibly producing unreal amounts of torque at low revs because of the supercharger.
Joshua White
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Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:20 am, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

alright. so do you think i should look into new break pads and also i was wondering about the compound. whats the best set up? like soft and hard and all that
Drew Hiron
TryHard
Queensland
Soarer TT

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Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 10:55 am, by:  Drew Hiron (Frag) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel : Sorry for the slow reply mate!

I was at Willowbank last May. My best time was as follows:


60ft: 2.271
ET: 14.629 @ 98.58MPH


This was with a Catback exhaust & an FMIC running 10psi according to the gauge. I was launching at 2000rpm and just letting the Transmission do the shifting.

I cant wait to see what difference this will make.
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 02:05 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joshua, it's an unusual use for the brake pads, so normal thinking goes out the window. You aren't using them to stop a spinning rotor, you are using them to keep a stopped rotor stopped.

First suggestion would be to fit TT rear brakes as they add 16% more braking force due to the extra leverage.

Then I would be thinking soft pad, and definitely NOT a performance pad, as they need to get hot to work properly.

Which probably brings it back to OEM or the Lucas which have more bite even when cool.

I have TT rears and Lucas pads on my GT40 and I can't spin the wheels with the brakes on - I used to be able to. I know it's not as much grunt as a S/C but it's pretty healthy for a stock V8.

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