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Aaron Thorburn
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auckland
v8

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Friday, June 01, 2007 - 09:32 am, by:  Aaron Thorburn (Azzabazza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have found a w58 gearbox for my up and coming manual conversion, however i am a bit worried that it isnt what they say it is, could anyone let me know if there are anything that proves that it is actually a w58 and not something else. and also are all w58's fine for soarer manual conversion??
thanks team
azza.
Aaron Thorburn
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auckland
v8

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Friday, June 01, 2007 - 09:45 am, by:  Aaron Thorburn (Azzabazza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have a picture of it but the thing is to large for this site.
David Vaughan
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ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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Friday, June 01, 2007 - 12:09 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So make it smaller, or post it on a photo site and then put a link here.

I can not help you identify it but if you are planning on no more than 200kW or so then the W58 is fine. I use one and have (or rather had, sob) 158rwkw.
Shane Ilich
Goo Roo
W.A.
Manual Single T

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Friday, June 01, 2007 - 03:17 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aaron - I ran 330rwhp through mine with no issues from the gearbox at all.

HOWEVER - be aware that the factory push-type clutch pressure plate is made from cast-iron, not steel/chromoly, and this can leave it susceptible to shattering if it gets too hot - so leave the pressure plate unmodified, dont go uprating its clamping force.

You will also need the W58 flywheel to suit the 1jz - this is different to the usual manual supra/soarer flywheel to suit the R154 box - the pressure plate bolt holes are in a different configuration.

I have a stock one for sale if you get stuck for one on the island.

As far as fitting one in the soarer - make sure you get the W58 with the remote-type gear shift - it looks like this:


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EDIT: Just noticed you've got a V8, so my flywheel will not be suitable.

However, this means you may need a special bellhousing made up, does it not?? Speak to Neil Griffiths or Lew Radburn from these forums for more info there
Shane Ilich
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Friday, June 01, 2007 - 03:24 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also, being a push-type clutch, you may find yourself somewhat stuck for aftermarket options - clutch, short-shifter, etc. Most of the stuff quoted as being available for manual supras/soarers is to suit the pull-type R154 setup.

Make sure you get the tailshaft yoke with the box also - as the W58 takes a smaller yoke than the R154/autos (yoke is the same).

Again, I have a W58 tailshaft/yoke if you need one.
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
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Friday, June 01, 2007 - 06:19 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Short shifter is no problem. In fact I have a spare (same as on my car) unused one I can sell you for a fraction of the prices short-shifters have been going here recently.
Stefan Kjellberg
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NSW
Soarer V8 Ltd

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Friday, June 01, 2007 - 08:20 pm, by:  Stefan Kjellberg (Stefank) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I put a W58 in the old Jag MK2 some years ago. I recall there were at least 3 shifter positions, so watch out there
Shane Ilich
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Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 05:15 am, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry David, I spose what I should say is be careful when buying after-market gear of making completely certain that the item is to suit the W58 gearbox you have - a lot of the time stuff advertised/listed in catalogues to suit manual Soarers is made for the R154.

And Stefan is correct - there are a number of variants of the W58, mainly to do with the shifter housing/positioning/type.


Andrew Ferres
DieHard
WA
'86 Cressida V8, '84 Soarer V8, '90 C-F Celsior V8

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Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 08:50 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://conceptual.net.au/~peewee/yoda_5spd_boxes.html

TURBO = R154

Look at the ribs on the centre section.
Aaron Thorburn
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auckland
v8

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Monday, June 04, 2007 - 10:12 am, by:  Aaron Thorburn (Azzabazza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks everybody the knowledge in this site is awesome, the box that i have lined up is the same as the photo that you posted shane, so that puts my mind at ease a bit, i am getting a chromoly flywheel put in and the bellhousing is getting custom fabricated.
thanks for the input much appreciated
azza
Aaron Thorburn
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auckland
v8

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Monday, June 04, 2007 - 11:42 am, by:  Aaron Thorburn (Azzabazza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the gearbox i have lined up is the same as the one that shane posted, this is good for a tt soarer, is it fine for a v8 soarer??
thanks team
azza
Liviu Velisarie
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Romania
JZZ30 GT-TL

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Reg: 05-2012

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Thursday, July 19, 2012 - 04:25 pm, by:  Liviu Velisarie (Greenroadster) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi,

I found a Toyota Supra Mk3 for parts with a W58 manual in it. Also, a good price too.

It will fit in my TT?
Flywheel needed I understand, aftermarket kind.
But what about the shifter?
And the clutch? push type?

Thanks.

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