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Aaron Klaver
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Victoria
TT

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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 02:42 pm, by:  Aaron Klaver (Nakedterror) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,

just wondering what the best way to tell a factory manual from a conversion is?

If it's a conversion, would a powerfc for the manual Soarer plug into the auto loom?

THanks in anticipation of your answers :-)

Cheers

Aaron
Jason Kingsmill
TryHard
NSW
UZZ31 Soarer V8

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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 02:47 pm, by:  Jason Kingsmill (Jason_k) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have a look on the VIN plate...should tell you engine, trim, gearbox etc..

Look for R154 - if it's there, it was factory manual.
Adam Brown
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QLD
Soarer TT Manual

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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 02:53 pm, by:  Adam Brown (82ajb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Best way - Check the build plate. R154 is the factory manual gearbox code. Unless the plate was changed in the conversion, but then your colour/trim codes and chassis number would be different too.
I believe that the computer looms are the same, however i've heard there are issues with using a Power FC with an auto box. For one, i believe the auto's torque limit the engine when changing gears.

I always thought that factory manuals came with the torsen LSD but, as i've found out since, that was a factory option still, not standard equipment on the 5 speeds.

You can usually tell a conversion anyway, by the assembly.
Aaron Klaver
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Victoria
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 03:19 pm, by:  Aaron Klaver (Nakedterror) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks mate, I'll check that out when I get my hands on her in the next week. :-)

Taking delivery of two soarers in the space of a week, when it rains it pours!
Shane McInnes
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NSW
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 04:01 pm, by:  Shane McInnes (Soarin_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i was always told the Power FC doesnt work with a Auto ECU and if it was converted it would have a Manual ECU in there anyway. (i think?)
Aaron Klaver
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 04:06 pm, by:  Aaron Klaver (Nakedterror) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, that's what I'm wondering - I'm wondering if it's a manual conversion, is the loom the same so the powerfc can still plug in :-)
Shom Bhattacharjee
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VIC
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 04:14 pm, by:  Shom Bhattacharjee (Shombre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes it does mate.
Aaron Klaver
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 04:16 pm, by:  Aaron Klaver (Nakedterror) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

*runs off to or a powerfc and hand controller*


Shom, you're a champ :D
Shom Bhattacharjee
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 05:03 pm, by:  Shom Bhattacharjee (Shombre) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pleasure mate
Simon Triantafillou
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 06:34 pm, by:  Simon Triantafillou (Soarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can still run the auto ECU while the car is manual. I believe I was the first in the club to do this a very long time ago. Any of the following ECUs will work fine once the car is converted to manual:

Factory Auto ECU
Factory Manual ECU
APEXi PowerFC

which would lead me to believe any available ECU would work fine, as long as it suits the Soarer.
Aaron Klaver
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Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 09:52 pm, by:  Aaron Klaver (Nakedterror) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cheers Simon and everyone else, question is answered :-)

A big power single turbo soarer running a remapped factory ecu is not my idea of ideal, powerfc on the way asap :-)

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