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Andrew Ferres
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WA
Cressida V8

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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 06:41 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm, just read what you typed Jeff
Sounds like I'm not pushing the car hard enough, or I have something malfunctioning.
Graham Dollisson
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QLD
GT-TL

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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 06:49 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew, I know it doesn't make sense but, if you are ever caught on wet grass and can't move your car due to wheel slip, put it in PWR, lock it in second and with light throttle, drive your car away. It worked for me once and I had to go uphill on wet grass, and I was STUCK FAST. I thought I would have to be towed off the grass. It is useful on the road in wet conditions. Make sense now?
Graham Dollisson
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 06:51 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of cause, A cressida V8 may not do it. Worth trying though!
Andrew Ferres
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Cressida V8

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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 06:55 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well it runs a UZZ30 ecu, so what ever your does mine should (besides the kickdown button, which I didn't bother with).

I know what you are saying though, its why the 4WD's have a "2ND START" button, to enable them to take off in very slippery conditions.



Sounds like I have some testing to do tonight.
Graham Dollisson
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 06:59 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've got a TT but they work the same.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 07:00 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just did some testing in my UZZ30 to confirm my experience.

PWR and 2nd will not give me 1st at all. I briskly embedded the pedal into the firewall (mats removed) and at either 0kph or 30kph it would not drop into first.
Peter Nitschke
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 07:03 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's a feature I like actually, blatting through the local hills, powering out of a tight corner, the last thing I want is for it to suddenly drop to first and lose the back end.

Some of you might have seen the video of a Supra (I think) doing burnouts in a car park, it jumped from 2nd to 1st to 2nd from memory, the driver lost control and threw a bystander over the car.
Peter Nitschke
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 07:04 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got stuck on wet grass once too, tried the PWR-2nd trick, sprayed one of the pushers with mud :-)

Wished I had an LSD for a moment there.
Dan McColl
TryHard
Victoria
UZZ32 V8 Soarer #183

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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 07:44 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

TRC - Let the computers sort it out.
Graham Dollisson
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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 08:12 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You just have to love the all the little tricks toyota have put in our cars!!
Andrew Ferres
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WA
Cressida V8

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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 08:58 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

'Well a Duck Bill'
2nd + PWR = well, 2nd!

Haha, learn something everyday. Maybe I should get a manual for this thing.
Reckon Toyota will give me a blank stare if I walk in and ask for a users manual for a 1986 V8 Cressida??


As for the shifting when in L thing, I tested that too.
It will not shift into 2nd when the shifter is in L.
It just bounced off the rev limiter.
Steve Nolan
TryHard
NSW
SC400 Ltd (31)

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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 10:45 pm, by:  Steve Nolan (Hiddenvision) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is the Gearbox smart enough to not change down a gear if selected and the speed is too high ?
Or does it just drop in and then go bang!

VS commodores do that.
In fact you can leave them in L and drive them like a nutter and the gearbox will change all the way up (and down) but only at max revs !!

Don't ask how I discovered that ...

Sam Schreck
TryHard
ACT
vvt-i JZZ31

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Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:47 pm, by:  Sam Schreck (Schreck300) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The vvt-i is great for kick downs. Though a little hard to be accurate with. Not sure which gear I drop back to when it happens, but all those valves open up and the revs jump up to around 6000. Not too great on a nice new piece of road after some rain though. I have to get in the habit of downshifting instead, or at least taking it out of 'OD' before the foot goes down.
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 01:44 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steve, the gearbox will not change down if the speed is too high. Great safety feature for the running gear.
Jeff Harper
Trader
NSW
UZZ32 Active V8

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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 10:54 am, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That is why I can slot into L at 150kph, quite safe.
Andrew Ferres
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Cressida V8

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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 02:39 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, in L, should mine change up to 2nd at redline?
Does it matter about the PWR button?
Peter Nitschke
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South Australia
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 02:49 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In L, it should just hit redline. ECT doesn't matter.

In 2nd, ECT = Normal you get the use of 1st and 2nd only.

In 2nd, ECT = PWR you only get 2nd (except for our old mate Paddock!) :-)

In Drive, you get the use of 1st, 2nd and 3rd. ECT doesn't matter except for shift points.

O/D on only has meaning if you are in 3rd gear.

Going back through the gears, you can pull the change lever back when you like, but the gears won't actually change until the ECU decides it is safe to do so without putting the engine above redline.
Sam Schreck
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ACT
vvt-i JZZ31

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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 04:31 pm, by:  Sam Schreck (Schreck300) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter, if you're going along in 3rd with OD on and you decide to shift down a gear, should you be taking it out of OD first or doesn't it matter?
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 04:44 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sam, if you put your foot down, then O/D will drop first, then 3rd, etc.

If you just slam it back to 2nd, then O/D will also still drop out.

Effectively O/D is another gear, so switching it off is dropping from 4th to 3rd. Pulling it back to 2nd is therefore going through 2 gears.

If I am hooning, I have O/D off all the time - unlikely to be going over the point it is needed (around 200kph) then paddle between 3rd and 2nd usually, with ECT = PWR so it won't pop back to 1st (if I have selected 2nd) and give me a nasty surprise.

If you are just cruising along, then leave it in Drive, O/D on and just let the box do what it wants. Going downhill, switch off O/D for extra engine braking.
Steve Nolan
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Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 04:50 pm, by:  Steve Nolan (Hiddenvision) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And Just for the sake of intrest....

What happens when you slam it in Reverse at 100.
Or Park for that matter..?

"Jags" from memory have a saftey on Park but I forget about reverse.

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