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Ben Socratous
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 08:08 am, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right, to add to my half dead motor, the auto is playing funny buggers too! Have a mate with a re-built W58 he just wants out of his shed (ie extra special price for me :-)).

Just curious as to the whole pedal situation. I know that they are rare as hens teeth 2nd hand, and I'm pretty sure that I don't want to know what they are worth new! So basically has anyone ever thought of using hydraulic race pedals?

This struck me in a stroke of semi-drunken genius last night. I can get a willwood pedal, master cylinder and remote resivoir for well under the average 2nd hand soarer pedal price. Anyone done this before? Anyone see any potential dramas with this?

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Ben Socratous
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 08:36 am, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Basically, something like this...


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Shane McInnes
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JZZ30 GT-TL Manual

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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 10:28 am, by:  Shane McInnes (Soarin_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ask Toyota for a price on the Pedal box, It might not be as expensive as you think it is.
Ben Socratous
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 02:16 pm, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alright, I'll give 'em a try, I've just heard some horror stories about price and availability on those items.
Shane McInnes
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 02:41 pm, by:  Shane McInnes (Soarin_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah suppose it doesnt hurt to ask, They might not be that expensive, then again they could be? Saves you messing around with another setup if it doesnt cost too much.

P.S if your gonna have decent power after your rebuild, is it worth using the W58 Gearbox?
Shane Ilich
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 02:41 pm, by:  Shane Ilich (Ferret) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ben - I got mine through Neil. wasnt stupidly priced IIRC.


Shane McInnes wrote on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 02:41 pm:

P.S if your gonna have decent power after your rebuild, is it worth using the W58 Gearbox?




Refer to my experience with the exploding W58 stock Toyota pressure plate, and ask Neil about my theory on THAT being the weakpoint of the W58.

End of the day, by the time you do the majority of the manual conversion work to fit a W58, there's really minimal effort required to then move onto an R154 should the W58 not suffice. And with Muzzy selling brand new R154s for around the 2200 mark, you can basically afford to break 3 or 4 W58s before you're coming close to having spent that much.

I say give the W58 a crack, if you DO break it, then move up to the R154. If it holds, then you've saved yourself the best part of 2k.

PS I have a 1JZ W58 fly here to get rid of if your mates box doesnt come with one :-)
Neil Griffiths
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 04:39 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let's see.

Building BIG TOUGH Engine.

Wanna skimp on the pedal assembly ( Re-invent )

Use cheaper trans.

May as well use a cheap clutch assembly. ( As these can be expensive )

Get OFF the P!SS Ben.... And wake up bro.

FFS...

Spend ONCE, Spend WISELY.
Andrew Cooper
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 04:48 pm, by:  Andrew Cooper (4ooogt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You only need the clutch pedal, you can mod the Auto one...

2200 for a new R154 is so cheap I dont believe it.
Mustafa Akgul
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 07:41 pm, by:  Mustafa Akgul (Muzzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Ben Socratous wrote on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 02:16 pm:

Alright, I'll give 'em a try, I've just heard some horror stories about price and availability on those items.



Ill ask also mate
Mustafa Akgul
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 07:46 pm, by:  Mustafa Akgul (Muzzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Neil Griffiths wrote on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 04:39 pm:

Spend ONCE, Spend WISELY



wise mans words seconded....
Andrew Meiers
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Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 11:01 pm, by:  Andrew Meiers (Acmtt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

brake pedal arm is $76. 50 from toyota plus gst.
I sold a clutch pedal last week for $100 2nd hand complete.

Just have to ask around mate.
There was a guy on here trying to sell his 2nd hand pedals last week, he might still have them.
Ben Socratous
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Monday, October 01, 2007 - 06:24 am, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah, well thats substantially better than what I was quoted last time!

Neil, just FYi... I'm not going a full rebuild for performance reasons, I'm doing it so the motor will last another 200,000km!


Ben Socratous wrote on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 08:08 am:

a re-built W58


I'm guessing we all missed this part? This thing is as strong as a 154 at the moment, the only thing that can possibly break now is the forks, and I have a set of custom ones that I will put in if I go down this road.

Contrary to popular belief of late, I'm not a complete idiot (I'm only half way there!). Yes I'm looking for a cheaper alternative (who isn't), but I'm not compromising on quality!
Andrew Meiers
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Monday, October 01, 2007 - 05:03 pm, by:  Andrew Meiers (Acmtt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a 2j here Ben, excellent compression...but then the w58 will be history.
Neil Griffiths
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Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 06:15 am, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Andrew Cooper wrote on Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 04:48 pm:

2200 for a new R154 is so cheap




Look Muzz,
It's getting cheaper.
( Already $150 LESS )

If I wait 6 months maybe they will be stated as being $1,500 NEW :-)
Mustafa Akgul
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Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 09:38 pm, by:  Mustafa Akgul (Muzzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh well anything can be stated I suppose its the one who is serious that will know the exact amount.

Guys this will not be that price I can guarantee you that...:-)

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