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Tai Johnsen
DieHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

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Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 07:17 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just thought i'd share some pictures and knowledge from attempting to do this mod myself.

If you have anything to add, please do.

Rito... first of all, the V8 box is different to the TT as I found out earlier..
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/31678/251593.html?1213258305


I had a bit of a look around the place and couldn't find any V8 specific pics, so I thought i'd whack some up as well as some info and thoughts.

It's a very messy job... And a second set of hands would have been helpful a few times.


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^^ This guy falls out when you drop the valve body off.. So make sure you are ready for it.

I'm pretty sure he goes in here..


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^^ This one is a mystery to me... I found it in the pan once I had pulled everything out and was draining the left over oil from it.. Any ideas?

Next step is to send it off to Mike at MV and put it all together and chirp some tyres..

From what I have read, Toyota Type-IV fluid is the best to use.

Putting everything back in is going to be fun :-)
Anish Varsani
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QLD
V8 UZZ30

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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 04:35 am, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a shaft seal of some sort.

Make sure you replace the accumulator seals before you bolt up your modified throttle body.

If you don't you might notice a squishing sound during gear changes after a while.
Tai Johnsen
DieHard
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UZZ31 - V8

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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 06:33 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Anish, i'll check them out before I put it back together.

I spoke to Michael today and he said that after it's modified it can run Dextron III no problems instead of having to use toyota type IV.

He hasn't seen the picture, but he thought the unknown item could be from inside one of the accumulators. I'll post it down with the valve body to see what he thinks.
Daniel Clarke
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TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 06:48 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dex 3 with the shift kit :-) NO dramas here and nice and cheap to do a fluid flush anytime if you like :-)
Neil Griffiths
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NSW
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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:14 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The little plastic thing with the ball and spring goes over the left shoulder :-)

The rubber gasket you have sits in the round groove directly opposite your red arrow. Sit this on the valve body when lifting back in.

Use plenty of VASOLINE to help hold things if you need to.
Neil Griffiths
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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 07:15 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seeing you are Supercharging.
I would advise to use Full Syn ATF with a LARGE Trans cooler.
FULLY flushed after install.
Tai Johnsen
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UZZ31 - V8

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Monday, June 16, 2008 - 08:57 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you very much Neil..


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Michael told me that the plastic check valve is to help stop the converter oil draining back into the sump when the car is off. He said it's not needed, however, on a fresh start the converter will have to fill up again. Basically, sit it in neutral for a few seconds before selection D or R and you will be sweet.

I don't intend on thrashing the car or gearbox, but I will most likely whack a cooler and good fluid in there for piece of mind :-)
Anish Varsani
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V8 UZZ30

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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 04:27 am, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tai,

If you don't put the black valve back in, you'll find that the gearbox won't have much holding power on an incline unless you tap the throttle to 1000rpm.
Neil Griffiths
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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 07:24 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep,
Where your blue ring is mate.
Rob Rojo
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Soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 06:17 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just finished installing a stage 1 kit From MV's about half an hour ago. Being the first time I have even looked inside the transmission it was an absolute nightmare.
I started the job last night. Getting everything out was easy enough but as soon as the valve body came down springs started going everywhere. The instructions are very brief to say the least, for anyone that knew what they were doing it would be straight forward. Anyway at the end of the night I had it all back together giving the sealant time to cure, went out this morning topped up the fluid started it up went to reverse the car off the ramps only to find I had no reverse. So I called MV's and they advised that I had not put one of the valves (or something) back in place.
So drain the sump again off with the pan... again and found what I missed. Got it all back together and took it for a spin.
After the frustration I can say it was still worth the effort. Only problem is I expected my car to chirp through the gears but to my surprise it stepped out about 6 foot sideways.
Chris Lock
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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 06:49 pm, by:  Chris Lock (Sledge) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll be getting someone to do mine...
It would probably be beyond me..
Rob Rojo
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Soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 06:57 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If I was to do it again I could do it in around an hour. The main drama for me due to my zero knowledge of Auto transmissions was the lack of detail in the instructions.
But they were very helpful when I called and asked for help.
David Samuel
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v8

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Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 09:12 pm, by:  David Samuel (Thenavigator) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi Tai. re the oil seal in the pan. I will share a story with you ...my father served his 7 yr apprenticeship at daimler uk . After building a gearbox off the drawings he was left with 4 parts !!! The apprentice master asked what he was going to do ...so he rebuilt again..3 builds later the master told him he given 3 parts extra..what a sh$t . but he learned to check the parts list before ripping in. What my old man learned from this was its great fun to do this to other people....i reckon his nippon cousin thew that in your box saying this will f@#$ em up...hehe
Tai Johnsen
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UZZ31 - V8

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Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 09:39 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hahahaha..... Well, whatever it was, it was stuffed anyway :-) and so far the auto box has worked perfectly (fingers crossed)

The torque converter does take a while to fill up without that little check valve in there after a week in the garage, and the shifts slowly get harder as the box comes up to temperature which is good i think...

Now all i've gotta do is stop an annoying little weep from the pan seal I hate leaks!!

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