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Andrew Magee
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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 01:56 pm, by:  Andrew Magee (1jz25tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

does anyone know off the top of their head which line is which on the bottom of the radiator when installing a transmission cooler?
Daniel Clarke
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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 04:36 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Fluid goes from the gearbox to the passenger side , and exits the drivers side of the radiator.

I have mine going from the gearbox to the passenger side of the radiator cooler, out to the external cooler, and from there back to the gearbox.

Gearbox --> Passenger side trans cooler in radiator --> Out drivers side to External PWR cooler --> Back to gearbox.

All i did was disconnect the drivers side line, hook it up to the ext cooler, and out the ext cooler back to the hardline back to the box.

Im running a big PWR cooler with a thermo fan on the back of it mounted where the stock Side Mount Intercooler was :-)
Joshua White
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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 06:17 pm, by:  Joshua White (Joshua_88) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did the Exact same thing as Daniel
Andrew Magee
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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 11:06 am, by:  Andrew Magee (1jz25tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sweet, does it matter if you mount it with the lines facing downward?
Vinny Ozorio
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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 01:20 pm, by:  Vinny Ozorio (Fruitloop) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew...Interesting question there ..Yes it does matter.Fluid will always take the path of least resistance (Oil and Air are both fluids) that is to say that the top part of the cooler "may" not be working and fluid (Oil) only flowing through the bottom cores,and nothing but heated vapour in the upper cores..!
Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 - 08:07 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have mine set up with Hot side going in the top, and cold side coming out the bottom.
Scott Casey
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Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 08:18 pm, by:  Scott Casey (V8soarer_1991) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Daniel Clarke wrote on Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 04:36 pm:




So, in the picture i took 2 is the transmission line out to the radiator and 1 is the return line from the radiator back to the transmission.


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Andrew Magee
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Monday, February 23, 2009 - 08:10 am, by:  Andrew Magee (1jz25tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks scott
Oki Zoubari
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Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 11:36 am, by:  Oki Zoubari (Oki) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Guys

so, if I am doing a flush, should I disconnect both hoses or only one of the two
to drop in a bucket.

if only one

would that be the

bottom red font no 1

or

top green no 2

thanks
Daniel Clarke
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Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 01:12 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

DIsconnect line 1 RED and empty into bucket . That way your flushing the factory cooler inside the radiator :-)
Oki Zoubari
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Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 01:32 pm, by:  Oki Zoubari (Oki) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Daniel
Oki Zoubari
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Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 07:56 pm, by:  Oki Zoubari (Oki) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Today after putting back the filter and pan.

I dropped the line 1 Red (lower pipe going to driver side on radiator) and started the car.

Instead of the oil coming out of the radiator nipple, it came out from the transmission pipe.

Is that right, or did I disconnect the wrong line?

I thought the oil should be flowing back from radiator to pipe , not from pipe to radiator!
Daniel Clarke
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Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 07:31 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Backwards i guess compared to my one , if thats the case just swap it over and go again .
Dave Rose
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Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 05:58 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel yours is the right way round, maybe 32s are the other way.
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Oki Zoubari
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Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 08:42 pm, by:  Oki Zoubari (Oki) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It appears to be the case, as Peter Scott who had a 32 mention in Rehabilitating a Soarer UZZ32 Active - Part 1

"To flush the trans I connect a rubber hose to the trans cooler line that exits the radiator on the battery side of the car. "

and in another article titled SOARER DieHard - Automatic Transmission, Torque converter and shift kits it says

"Undo the top oil cooler line going into the radiator".

A bit of old oil mixing with new one is o.k.
main thing I dropped the pan and drained over 4 litres and cleaned filter.

Only issue is that at one point, I left the engine a bit long and shifted the gears up and down twice,

and then I got that crunching sound, either pump or gears running low on fluid,
In 2 seconds, I quickly turned engine off ( hopefully didn't cause damage),

Now the thing I am trying to sort out is the right level on the stick as it is varies when cold to as high as being on the letter T ( type) to 1 cm over end of HOT when car is hot( might drain a bit if stays high).

Also, I did still get that car hesitation in taking off today momentarily, not sure if it is transmission issue or spark plugs or something else.

Next will do coolant, power steering and active suspension fluid.

Thanks Daniel and Dave for you input, please keep your help coming, thanks to the Soarer community, we can look after our beautiful cars and enjoy.
Daniel Clarke
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Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 09:45 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SOrry , had no idea about the Uzz32 being different , do now :-)
Jamie Richards
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Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 12:32 am, by:  Jamie Richards (Nwb40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Oki Zoubari wrote on Saturday, September 03, 2011 - 08:42 pm:

Also, I did still get that car hesitation in taking off today momentarily, not sure if it is transmission issue or spark plugs or something else.


did you give the engine time to warm up before taking off?
Daniel Clarke
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Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 07:53 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ALways check the trans fluid when the car is running and at operating temp . The Cold setting is only a guideline when filling from empty .
Dave Rose
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Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 10:49 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oki, how many litres did you use to flush? ,the system holds 10-11 litres, it sounds as if you drained the pan and flushed output line only ,the converter still would be full of old oil,
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/37/1366.html?1104261037
Oki Zoubari
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Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 12:07 pm, by:  Oki Zoubari (Oki) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jamie,
The hesitation happened while engine was already hot after driving long distance and then pulled from lights or just a u turn), note that the car engine is most of the time responsive and powerful.( could it be I need to Adjust Cruise Control and Throttle Cables, been wanting to do this for a while)

Daniel,
I take stick readings both when cold (first thing before starting engine and several times after driving around ( engine so hot that I have to use a rag to pull the stick), I understand that cold is not accurate, only doesn't make sense it is over the Hot level, the when engine is real hot, it is just a bit over end of HOT, unless I am pulling fluid from the side of the dip tube while taking the stick out.


Dave,
I ordered 12 litres, now I am left with 250ml for topping.

I started with dropping pan, cleaning filter, filter / pan back on, put 4 litres in through dipstick, then pulled bottom hose to a bottle, started engine shifting each gear up and down twice.

As the car was lifted on stands/ jacks, that sound I got, was either the system running low on fluid and gears crunching or pump noise or the silly me shifting drive to reverse while wheels were still spinning( forgot to put handbrake)

The old fluid was not that dirty, darker red as compared to the very light transparent new fluid.

Old fluid has red colour same as new Type IV, any way to tell if the old one was Type IV or dexron from colour, could it be that the old bit in radiator which went back in and wasn't flushed out after making the error with the hoses is playing the transmission a bit.
Dave Rose
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Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 01:19 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

O good ,..dont think there is a way to check which fluid was in before?,the bit in the rad is only a pipe and the return is a open pipe to the box , a fair bit would have drained back to the box as you were flushing it, so small amount of old oil its not worth thinking about, not sure about the noise, how long did you run it for after the fluid stopped coming out.
Oki Zoubari
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Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 02:10 pm, by:  Oki Zoubari (Oki) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2 to 3 seconds before switching engine off

on a side note, your profile picture is so cool, nice to have a lockup garage with all the tools and 2 Soarers, are they both same colour same model or V8 and TT
Dave Rose
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Sunday, September 04, 2011 - 06:10 pm, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should be fine 2-3 seconds is nothing, sometimes air going through can make a grinding noise .
Only one V8 now the other VVTi was a sort of drive car when i was working at Formula cars imports Perth

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